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Old 03-29-2008, 04:48 PM   #61 (permalink)
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...If you use your military to get what you want and subjugate those that you conquer, that INCREASES your wealthy not reduces it. Look at ancient Rome. It conquered the known world and got very rich in the process. So too with Alexander the Great before Rome. So there, Kenny...
and what happened to them in the end? anyway, you sound like rush limbaugh's favorite historian victor davis hanson. i attempted to read one of his books, and found the man totally locked into ancient greece. problem is things have changed. no longer can you have war at some point on earth and no one beyond a few miles radius not know of it
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:11 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The invincible X Army? Sounds like a French title or something alike... hahahaha!

No, seriously, if there is one country here who clearly knows about its military might, then it must be the US. They've been fighting alone most of our world's threats, while we were idly sitting home watching TV.

So, yeah, I believe the US are the baddest guys on Earth; and, boy, that's a relief!!!
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:26 PM   #63 (permalink)
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...If you use your military to get what you want and subjugate those that you conquer, that INCREASES your wealthy not reduces it. Look at ancient Rome. It conquered the known world and got very rich in the process. So too with Alexander the Great before Rome. So there, Kenny...
and what happened to them in the end? anyway, you sound like rush limbaugh's favorite historian victor davis hanson. i attempted to read one of his books, and found the man totally locked into ancient greece. problem is things have changed. no longer can you have war at some point on earth and no one beyond a few miles radius not know of it
Um, well, Rome lasted a thousand years! I guess they knew a thing or two about how to run an empire. As far as this Rush Limbaugh historian guy that you said I sound like, well I don't know who the fuck he is nor do I care. And as far as Rush Limbaugh himself goes, he's a fatheaded blowhard that doesn't know his ass from his elbow on ANY subject.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:16 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Rush is an ultra-conservative talk show host that while quite knowledgable has a tendancy to go off the deep-end. I don't listen to Rush very often myself but he does have quite a following.

Anyhow, about the American Military. The US has gone through many changes in the last few hundred years. The US originally built up our military as a deterrence against would-be invading forces. As time went on, America got into the habit of assisting other nations around the world when those countries became overwhelmed. In turn, America made allies. Then a huge threat to democracy came along called communism. The Cold War began and both sides were forced to build up their respective militaries as again, a deterrence against each other. More allies were made and eventually the Soviet Union fell. What was left was a lone super power.

At this point, one of two decisions could have been made. Conduct a drastic down-sizing of the US Military due to no foreseeable threats, or keep improving the military so that not only does another Cold War not occur, but so that the US can support those allies it had made over the years and protect its over-seas interests. Protecting those interests is what keeps America on top, and America must stay on top to deter tyrants. Its sort of a catch-22.

In spite of the lone super power's existance, it does not abuse those powers as other countries might. The US could no doubt conquer the entire world, if it so desired with the aid of its allies. The allies would probably be against that, but because America isn't a tyrranical state its not something that is on its plate. Were that the case, America would use force as countries who have attempted to control the world have before. In other words, America is the most peaceful empire to have ever existed. Yeah, you may laugh at that, but check your history books. We've had several opportunities to take ownership of many countries, but never have.

Some people refer to America as the world police. That's not far from the truth. Hell I like to travel, but wouldn't be able to go to a lot of place were it not for the US. The mere presence of America has dissuaded many conflicts for decades and have kept peace in regions when war would have ensued. Power is what keeps tyranny at bay, not a drawn-down military that only protects its borders with a minimal effort.

America isn't a bad choice to have as the vanguard of freedom. No matter what, someone will always try to bring violence to otherwise peaceful people in the world, but as long as America stays on top the world is a safer place, imho.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:30 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Good question
Do u know a great war about american history which happened on north korea in 1950年6月,?try to find out:>
The War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea

Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea
I'm sorry but I couldn't help but laugh at link. That's some heavy propaganda! I'm sure if you asked most South Koreans you'd find that most are happy being in the ROK rather than the DPRK, otherwise they could kiss their IPODs goodbye.

I think the split was a horrible idea; Koreans weren't even consulted about the idea! But letting the DPRK defeat the ROK would have been even worse.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:31 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Using gas is a violation of the war conventions...we used CN gas in Viet Nam in the tunnels. Torture is likewise forbidden. We use methods on suspects that we prosecuted the Japanese for after WWII. It seems we are not bound by law.
Using Lethal Chemical/Gas as a Weapon is in violation of the Geneva Convention, however Tear Gas/Riot Gas is not lethal, which is what was used in Vietnam's Tunnel Systoms.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:48 AM   #67 (permalink)
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The problem with the U.S. is that yes, it has all the big, bad weapons, but it lacks the intestinal fortitude to use them to their full capability. In other words, it's too soft to really be a true bad-ass. Its leaders have too much compassion or cowardice to really go all out and wipe out its enemies off the face of the Earth and simply take what it wants. I find this rather puzzling that it has this huge arsenal, yet it doesn't use it to get the natural resources it needs, like petroleum from the Middle East. It just makes those camel jockeys in Saudi Arabia call the shots while Americans keep paying more and more for gasoline, food and everything else, as oil keeps going up and up.

It could have easily carpet-bombed Iraq into rubble from 50,000 feet with B-52s or launch wave after wave of cruise missiles from offshore and not have risked even one American soldier. Did it do that? No. Why? It does not have the stomach to kill civilians. Oh, boo hoo hoo. Please. The big, bad Uncle Sam is a paper tiger that is afraid to eat all the villagers when it comes down to it. What a pathetic and incompetent country it is! The Roman Empire, for example, had no qualms to do what was needed to be done, in order to remain the number one superpower of its day. So, too did other empires. The Spartans, the Huns, the Chinese, the British, the Nazis, the Japanese, the Soviets, -- but NOT the Americans. This softness and lack of will to fully exercise power, is the U.S.'s Achilles' Heel and will lead to its destruction.
it is soft power that won you the cold war, not so much military might. the US economy hasnt been going to smooth since they took an unilateral line in international politics.
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:43 AM   #68 (permalink)
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it is soft power that won you the cold war, not so much military might. the US economy hasnt been going to smooth since they took an unilateral line in international politics.
Your assertion that the U.S. won the Cold War is wrong. It's a fallacy that it's over. It just entered a new stage. The Soviet Union was basically outspent because its economy was a dinosaur and couldn't keep up in the modern world. All that has happened is that the nation-state formerly known as the Soviet Union, modernized and decided to adopt more capitalistic practices. For the U.S. to crow that it won the Cold War, is simply ridiculous.

Oh, and by the way, if anybody should get the credit for "ending" the Cold War, it should be Mikhail Gorbachev, not Ronald Reagan. If Gorbachev didn't want to change the path the Soviet Union was on, it wouldn't have happened. It wouldn't have made one bit of difference what Reagan said or did. I love how history gets so distorted by those that wish to tell the tale as they see fit. In other words, the conservatives in the U.S. love to deify Reagan (they even want to put him on Mt. Rushmore) and create this Reagan Myth that he was this "Moses" delivering the American people from their slavery. Oh, please, don't make me wretch.

As to why the U.S.S.R. changed its name from the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" to Simply "Russia" was probably a reflection of the abandonment of the socialist ideology that it followed. Communism is returning en mass among the Russian people though, that are fed up with the organized crime that has cropped up and taken hold in the wake of this change. They are yearning for a strongman to take the country back from these criminal thugs that are in control.

It was not really necessary, though. Look at communist China. They simply adopted capitalistic practices but their government remained intact and they didn't change their name from the "People's Republic of China".

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Your assertion that the U.S. won the Cold War is wrong. It's a fallacy that it's over. It just entered a new stage. The Soviet Union was basically outspent because its economy was a dinosaur and couldn't keep up in the modern world. All that has happened is that the nation-state formerly known as the Soviet Union, modernized and decided to adopt more capitalistic practices. For the U.S. to crow that it won the Cold War, is simply ridiculous.

Oh, and by the way, if anybody should get the credit for "ending" the Cold War, it should be Mikhail Gorbachev, not Ronald Reagan. If Gorbachev didn't want to change the path the Soviet Union was on, it wouldn't have happened. It wouldn't have made one bit of difference what Reagan said or did. I love how history gets so distorted by those that wish to tell the tale as they see fit. In other words, the conservatives in the U.S. love to deify Reagan (they even want to put him on Mt. Rushmore) and create this Reagan Myth that he was this "Moses" delivering the American people from their slavery. Oh, please, don't make me wretch.

As to why the U.S.S.R. changed its name from the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" to Simply "Russia" was probably a reflection of the abandonment of the socialist ideology that it followed. Communism is returning en mass among the Russian people though, that are fed up with the organized crime that has cropped up and taken hold in the wake of this change. They are yearning for a strongman to take the country back from these criminal thugs that are in control.

It was not really necessary, though. Look at communist China. They simply adopted capitalistic practices but their government remained intact and they didn't change their name from the "People's Republic of China".
the 'modern world' consisted of markets opening to liberal principles and existed due to US policy. Russia was forced to compete but couldnt due to its retarded political/economic model. With the world now consisting mostly of liberal market ideas the US had won the race. Yes the USSR collapsed by its internal policy, but it is the structure of the world economy that put the condition that the USSR had to adapt to in the first place.
and in a bipolar world it is not that far fetched to see the one that kills itself as the loser and therefore the other as a winner.

and China is just beginning with opening up, tolerating millionaires and elements that go against a communist idea of society. it is also seeing more uprisings in the west now, they might not overthrow the government but it is an implication of the fact that china is not as single an entity it likes to think it is.
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I've gotten this crazy idea that most americans believe they have the greatest fighting force on the planet called Earth...

Which facts (if any) do they build this claim on?

As far as i can see the American Army is far from an exceptional institution.
They were in a couple of world wars where they luckily came out on the winning side, but really... What makes the Army so extemely dangerous that no other force should oppose it?
The Iraqi forces fought and still fights the Army. Same goes for the Afghan militias. And the African ones too. No country they have fought in the last 10 years has given up.
Actually, no country they have fought in 50 years has given up...

Russia is growing once again. China is about to out do USA. Europa finally seems like it has rebuild itself. North Korea, Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam and Afghanistan. All standing while the dollar falls, the army loses and noone seems to be getting any happier within the american borders.

Now i repeat my question: Which facts (if any) do they build this claim on?

Why is the american army so great? 60% of the population has more faith in the army than in any other institution. Where does this come from?
Well, first of all let me say that I as an American do not use the phrase the greatest American anything, to me that would b egotistical ,arrogant and rude.
As for your question the reason why I think the American army{which at one time I was a part of} is so good is because of the people in the army or any other American military
The people of this army this military are white black brown, protestant,catholic,jewish,buddist,musslim,and some I may have missed, and male and female
When these people put all their differances aside to concentrate on one objective if it is a rightous cause the objective is in serious trouble.
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