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03-28-2008, 03:35 PM
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No disrespect, but it is not the US Military that has a weakness for sustaining an indefinite war, that weakness falls upon the Civilian side of the balance.
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True in Viet Nam, the civilians ran out the will to persist. However, the current conflict the military itself is arguable suffering from an indefinite war.
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If one drafts a person more suited for Basketball onto a Baseball Team, can one really expect this person to be a better Baseball Player?
I don't think so. One because there is a different need and quite possibly a desire between Baseball and Basketball, and like an Involuntary Draft into Military Service results might not be as good as opposed to one that desired to be in the Military.
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The advantage of the draft was an endless supply of mostly single men (cannon fodder) over a long period of time at low pay(I was paid $78 a month at the start of Viet Nam). Now we have a few mostly married men who join for the comparatively good pay. The results are too costly, with too many being effected with each death (wife, kids), and with reoccurring tours of duty, an almost certain chance of being killed or injured. It is then, not a good comparison to sports teams.
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03-28-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cncncn
Good question
Do u know a great war about american history which happened on north korea in 1950年6月,?try to find out:>
The War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea
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North Korea invaded South Korea, that is what caused that war. The South wallows in wealth while the North resorts to eating human flesh because they are starving. In the mean time, Kim Junk Il gets fat and masterbates to his porno collection.
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03-28-2008, 03:51 PM
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I've gotten this crazy idea that most americans believe they have the greatest fighting force on the planet called Earth...
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Well, I hate to break it to you, but we do. No single other country has a military that even comes close to matching ours in power, training, equipment, or technology. China, Russia, India, and similar countries have nothing but numbers.
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03-28-2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe
Well, I hate to break it to you, but we do. No single other country has a military that even comes close to matching ours in power, training, equipment, or technology. China, Russia, India, and similar countries have nothing but numbers.
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nothing to be proud of really
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03-28-2008, 05:35 PM
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nothing to be proud of really
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I would agree. Something to be really proud of is if a country managed prosperity and security without an army. That the US needs the by far biggest army in the world, maybe more powerful than the rest of the world combined, is just an acknowledgment that US diplomacy has failed on close to all levels.
I think Switzerland could pull it off - I honestly do not know what they need such a huge army for.
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03-28-2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AzTeK
I would agree. Something to be really proud of is if a country managed prosperity and security without an army. That the US needs the by far biggest army in the world, maybe more powerful than the rest of the world combined, is just an acknowledgment that US diplomacy has failed on close to all levels.
I think Switzerland could pull it off - I honestly do not know what they need such a huge army for.
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Weakness invites war, Switzerland was bombed throughout WWII, so much for neutrality. The only way to remain neutral is to have a powerful enough military to scare anyone away from bringing you into a war. Even this tactic doesn’t always work (as we saw in both WW), and the US has grown more prone to sticking our nose into other countries business starting with the Cold War. America needs to go back to stay neutral until it is outright threatened.
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03-28-2008, 08:41 PM
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The days of large set piece big battlefield type conflicts has passed, probably for good, no other nations of any consequence have even really started preparing for that type of conflict nor do they show any interest in doing so, yet the US continues on on that assumption.......leaving itself ill-equipped to fight the battles in will inevitably find itself in given the standard foreign policy mantra its been pursuing for decades. Nuclear weapons pretty much nullify invasions and coercive threats. Insurgencies are another issue and present the typical scenario the US will find itself in, but it ignored the lessons of Vietnam and failed to act accordingly after the USSR fell apart. Biggest, baddest, toughest, most advanced, but also almost worthless in today's world. It's easy prey to asymmetrical warfare and unable to deal with insurgencies while still clinging to our so called standards for what is considered ok on the battlefield. Just another thing on the list of the US's world record breaking misallocation of resources.
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03-28-2008, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mairead
There may be truth in what you say right enough, but I doubt, for example, if anyone REALLY knows what weapons China and other powers do or don't have.
Beware of false pride.
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China couldn't even keep a satellite in orbit until loral space sold them the technology. U.S. firms helped<br>China with nukes? but i find it highly unlikely that the US and China would ever go to war with each other. They are too dependent on each others economy. Although things could get dicey if china ever invades Taiwan.
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03-28-2008, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BloodPhart
China couldn't even keep a satellite in orbit until loral space sold them the technology. U.S. firms helped<br>China with nukes? but i find it highly unlikely that the US and China would ever go to war with each other. They are too dependent on each others economy. Although things could get dicey if china ever invades Taiwan.
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I agree. The whole "no two countries with a McDonalds will ever go to war with one another" theory prevails here, I think.
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03-28-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AzTeK
I would agree. Something to be really proud of is if a country managed prosperity and security without an army. That the US needs the by far biggest army in the world, maybe more powerful than the rest of the world combined, is just an acknowledgment that US diplomacy has failed on close to all levels.
I think Switzerland could pull it off - I honestly do not know what they need such a huge army for.
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yeah lets pull all of our troops, bring every single one home.Lets see how long peace lasts.
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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."- Ronald Reagan
"If the first amendment doesn't work, the second amendment will." - Michael Badnarik
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