[quote=Roundeye;164109]Your first statement I shrugged off as an conspiracy theory that had something to do with some sort of US CIA anti-communist op during the Cold War.

But this second statement... I don't recall an American invasian of the Soviet Union. If you mean Russia, I know what you're referring to, but I don't understand why that has anything to do with this thread (a failed attempt to thwart the rise of communism in Russia by the allied powers during the Russian Civil War?). If you do mean the Soviet Union then I have no clue what you're talking about.


I have a professor named Alan Flanders at the TCC campus in Norfolk. He was a teacher at the Newport military school for 25 years. He told me this.

But if you want proof, then maybe I can scrap something together from the internet.



That is a picture of the American Expeditionary Force Siberia that was in the Russian Civil War in Vladivostok, Russia, during the tail end of World War I after the October Revolution, from 1918 to 1920.

"Please explain how the US(?) secretly installed the Ba'ath Party in Iraq, and when, how and why exactly the US(?) invaded the Soviet Union after WW I."

You know the very theme of communism sort of explains away the reasons for why Americans forces would be involved. Maybe you need to understand some things about Woodrow Wilson that you didn't know already.

But let me put it simply. The Russians were becoming communist. Western governments and societies feared communism, example "The Red Scare." If that doesn't explain it to you, then I'm sorry.

As for the Baath regime in Iraq, hold on a sec.

Norm Dixon: How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons
Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein
Democracy Now! | The Reagan-Saddam Connection: "We Create These Monsters And When It's Not Convenient We Cover Them Up"
Bear Left!: Three Lessons for America
The crimes of a U.S. ally

As for the puppet part in us bringing him into power. I'm still looking for that. But these should hopefully provide you with enough information about America/Saddam relations.

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The USSR came into existance in 1922.

Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah, nobody liked communism, which is why European, Japanese, US and other forces intervened in the civil war, taking the side of the anti-Bolshevik forces.

Yeah, I know about aiding Iraq during the 80s, but I wanted to know how it was the US put the Ba'ath and Saddam in power. I don't think you will find anything but conspiracy theories. The only thing I've ever seen was someone's idea that the CIA encouraged Ba'ath Party members to stage a coup in Iraq since the previous regime was pro-Soviet. It's not too far-fetched really, but encouraging and placing into power are two very different things.

America chose to side with Saddam in the 80s during the Iran-Iraq War, which seemed like the lesser of two evils, which is why our support officially went to Iraq. Most western countries felt the same way. Yeah yeah, Iran-Contra, another mistake that further bit America in the ass. But I guess we at least learned that you can't make deals with terrorists.

Yes I do.

Yeah, good job, UN.

Here's an article from 2002 which talks about Iraq's wonderful cooperation with the UN, how good of a job the inspectors did and the UN pussy-footing (not the US) as I stated before. You don't see much about this anymore because it's not popular to talk about what was really going on with Iraq.

Disarming Iraq: The Lessons of UNSCOM

From this article
"Moreover, recent reports indicate that Iraq has moved substantial caches of WMD material and resources to safe havens in Syria."

This isn't breaking news, and investigations are ongoing. But how can it be confirmed? Funny how nuclear facilities started popping up in Syria in the 2003 time-frame...

here's a documentary on the intelligence struggle surrounding the iraq war. its long but gives an insightfull look into how even the president himself thought poorly of the WMD accusations, and how george tenet curbed towards the agenda of cheney.

FRONTLINE: the dark side: watch online | PBS

Yup, and that mixed in with the fact that we found the weapons the inspectors could not find when they were there in the 90s lends credence to that claim.

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If Saddam moved his weapons to Syria why did he himself stay in Iraq? Doesn't that sound a bit stupid of the dictator wanted by the invading army..?

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