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12-19-2006, 06:50 AM
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Army To Break Strike
Updated: 9:12 p.m. CT Dec 15, 2006
The US Army is considering measures to force striking workers back to their jobs at a Goodyear Tire & Rubber plant in Kansas in the face of a looming shortage of tyres for Humvee trucks and other military equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A strike involving 17,000 members of the United Steelworkers union has crippled 16 Goodyear plants in the US and Canada since October 5.
US Army might break Goodyear strike - Financial Times - MSNBC.com
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12-19-2006, 07:19 AM
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Bad.
According to what I have read, Goodyear is meeting quotas for military purposes.
The government should stay out of the dispute. Goodyear should hire non-union workers if a crisis arises.IMO.
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12-20-2006, 04:37 AM
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Agreed--but of course they will use the old reliable excuse of "national security" if and when they move in.
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12-20-2006, 02:54 PM
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What are they striking over. I know a guy who worked in a goodyear plant for the summer and made a shit load of money.
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12-20-2006, 04:37 PM
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The union and tiremaker have disagreed over health care proposals for retirees and plans to close a Tyler, Texas, tire factory I believe.
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12-20-2006, 10:07 PM
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So a common labor dispute should be handled by the ARMY??
If all this is true it's just another nail in the coffin and the idiot sheep will eat it up if the right talk show host tells them to.
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12-20-2006, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUQ
Updated: 9:12 p.m. CT Dec 15, 2006
The US Army is considering measures to force striking workers back to their jobs at a Goodyear Tire & Rubber plant in Kansas in the face of a looming shortage of tyres for Humvee trucks and other military equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A strike involving 17,000 members of the United Steelworkers union has crippled 16 Goodyear plants in the US and Canada since October 5.
US Army might break Goodyear strike - Financial Times - MSNBC.com
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Fire the union workers and train new workers. If they refuse to work then they don't deserve pay, and so they don't deserve a severence either. Cut them, hire new boys.
Of course, the government shouldn't step in. If the government isn't getting what they're supposed to, the fault lies with the company that supplies them and so the responsibility to fix the problem is not the government's. |
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12-20-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Troianii
Fire the union workers and train new workers. If they refuse to work then they don't deserve pay, and so they don't deserve a severence either. Cut them, hire new boys.
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Funny you should put it that way. That was the major reason unions were formed in the first place. An attitude like that will just send the pendulum right back the other way until you have the national guard busting heads, unions outlawed and sweatshops enjoying a resurgence. And that will of course bring unions right back.
The problem is more complex that you seem to realize. You are engaging in sloganeering for the most part.
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Of course, the government shouldn't step in. If the government isn't getting what they're supposed to, the fault lies with the company that supplies them and so the responsibility to fix the problem is not the government's.
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I can agree with that.
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12-21-2006, 04:50 AM
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It is used, the Army, to break strikes that the company could not. It has been used against steelworkers and I believe against rail workers, in the past. If I remeber my history, both times "national security" wa used to involve the Army.
Does that mean that the military can be used to assist corporations that try to screw the workers? If so, why?
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12-21-2006, 07:14 AM
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Does that mean that the military can be used to assist corporations that try to screw the workers? If so, why?
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Sure. Take this example. The military needs tires and the government says without tires the terrorists win. The idiot sheep say "By God, we're not going to let those damned terrorists win. I think the government should arrest all those unamerican strikers and let the compny hire illegal aliens."
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