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05-07-2008, 11:22 PM
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We have been ordering builds/ disbands (disbands= I think, I haven't had one yet  ) through p.m.'s, but I'm not entirely sure about retreats... I think those have been automatic? (don't trust me there  )
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Are the builds ordered on the same schedule then, I take it?
According to the rules, a player is entitled to build one unit in each unoccupied space of their home country that they still control during the fall turn. So since more units is a good thing and less is bad, I can only assume countries want more units each turn in those unoccupied spaces, but I don't know whether you're going to want fleets or armies, so for that reason I still need build orders.
And as for retreats, is there anyone who can tell me precisely how that's been done? I'll scan the rulebook again, but it didn't seem very helpful.
Okay, here are Retreats in the rulebook, I just don't know if this is how you've done it or not:
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RETREATS
After all the orders have been revealed and read, the moves made,
and the conflicts resolved, any dislodged (defeated) units make
their retreat. These retreats are written down (just like orders) and
revealed immediately. No diplomacy or discussion takes place prior
to writing retreat orders—all countries are on their own.
A dislodged unit must retreat to an adjacent province that it could
ordinarily move to if unopposed by other units. Sometimes a retreat
is made deeper into enemy territory.
A unit can’t retreat to:
• a province that is occupied;
• the province from which the attacker came; or
• a province that was left vacant by a standoff during
the same turn.
If there is no available province to retreat to, the dislodged unit is
immediately disbanded and removed from the game board.
WRITING RETREATS
If two or more units must retreat, the retreat locations are
immediately (and without discussion) written down by the players
concerned. The written retreats are then simultaneously revealed.
Retreats can’t be convoyed or supported. Each player should write
down the location of the dislodged unit and the location to which
it’s retreating.
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The reason I'm asking is because the French army in Belgium was dislodged and needs to retreat. As for builds, don't worry players who are entitled to them, I'm updating the map and working on it.
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Okay, here we go. I'm going to change the last two incorrect (spring) maps I posted to match these correct ones as well, but this is the update:
Fall 1906 Movement

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Fall 1906 Movement Results
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Results for Fall, 1906 (Movement)
General Notices:
Order resolution completed on 07-May-2008 at 22:58:57 CDT
Order Results:
Austria:
Austria: A tyr Supports A sil -> mun
Support cut by Move from Trieste.
England:
England: F edi -> nth
England: F eng Supports F hol -> bel
England: F bot -> stp/sc
England: A lvp -> edi
Bounced with nwg (1 against 1).
England: F mao -> por
England: A stp -> nwy
France:
No order for unit at Brest. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Burgundy. Hold order assigned.
France: A bel -> hol
Dislodged from hol (2 against 1).
France: A bre Holds
France: A bur Holds
France: A mun -> kie
France: F nwg -> edi
Bounced with lvp (1 against 1).
France: F por -> spa/sc
Germany:
Germany: A ber Supports A sil -> mun
Germany: F hol -> bel
Germany: A ruh -> bur
Bounced with bur (1 against 1).
Germany: A sil -> mun
Germany: F ska -> den
Italy:
No order for unit at Tunis. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Venice. Hold order assigned.
Italy: F apu -> nap
Italy: F nap -> rom
Italy: A tun Holds
Italy: A ven Holds
Russia:
No order for unit at Moscow. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Rumania. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Vienna. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Warsaw. Hold order assigned.
Russia: A gal -> sil
Russia: A mos Holds
Russia: F rum Holds
Russia: A vie Holds
Russia: A war Holds
Turkey:
Turkey: F adr -> ven
Bounced with ven (1 against 1).
Turkey: F aeg -> ion
Turkey: F alb -> adr
Failed because Turkey: F adr -> ven failed.
Turkey: A con -> bul
Turkey: F gre Supports F aeg -> ion
Turkey: A ser -> tri
Failed because Turkey: A tri -> tyr failed.
Turkey: A tri -> tyr
Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
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05-08-2008, 12:14 AM
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Now is the retreat/disband phase, then the building phase.
France is the only country to need a retreat/disband order. They can chose to retreat the Army, or disband it, and as it is the fall phase rebuild it in either of their capitals. France also has to issue an additional disband order.
Britain, and Russia each need to issue build orders as well.
Hopefully they'll turn these in soon, so that we have time to plan for the next moves.
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05-08-2008, 12:30 AM
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Yes, I sent Billy a PM regarding retreat orders. I have your build orders, Caltex According to the rules, if they aren't turned in on time, the unit is disbanded. I'll leave this up to you guys how lenient I should be on this. I agree with you that the smoother/quicker the game can move, the more fun it is.
I have Russia's build orders (sorry about the delay, Slarti  ), the only thing left besides France's retreat/disband orders are Britain's build orders.
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05-08-2008, 12:42 AM
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I wouldn't bother with soliciting a retreat order from billy. His unit can only retreat to one spot: Picardy. He does need to say which unit he wants disbanded though.
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05-08-2008, 01:45 AM
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Right, good point. Hadn't even thought about that. Map updated:
Fall 1906 Retreat Results (Adjustment)
Here are the build/disband (adjustment phase) details
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Results for Fall, 1906 (Retreat)
General Notices:
Order resolution completed on 08-May-2008 at 00:50:48 CDT
Order Results:
Austria:
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.
England:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
France:
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.
France: A bel -> pic
Germany:
Italy:
Russia:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
Turkey:
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Awaiting build orders from England and disband orders from France. I have Russia's build orders (only one possibility, I believe anyway)
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There was an earlier question about where new units may be built to which I reply:
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Building: At the end of each Fall season, each country can build new units based on how many supply centers they control outside of their own country. Also, they may only build as many new units as they have unoccupied home supply centers. Fleets can only be built in coastal provinces. Only armies can be built inland. You must submit a building order in order for your new units to be recognized.
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Each player is given three (save for Russia, which has four) home supply centres. These spaces are the starting point for their owning power's initial forces. The players can then build new units at these home supply centers as they capture further supply centres. New units can only be built on a power's home supply centers. If a power loses all of its home supply centers it may continue to play, however, it may not build new units until it has recaptured at least one of its home supply centers.
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Ummm... how do i still have an army?
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You technically don't and it won't show that way once the build/disband turn is over. I'm still waiting on orders from England and France regarding what to build (England) and which unit to disband (France). Russia has already Then I'll update it to show the result of the adjustment phase--which will include the disbanding of your last unit. Sorry for the delay.
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