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Old 04-28-2008, 09:41 PM   #531 (permalink)
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I think France, in his shortsighted move, has just hugely turned the tables toward the previously unlikely odds of the Ottomans winning. Not that Indy will win, but its now back on the table at least. Austria, France, and Italy could have taken back Tri and contained Turkey for quite a while. While Germany and Britain could have destroyed Russia.

Next Italy will fall, France will be exposed to the Ottomans. Germany and Britain will probably turn around and crush France too, starting in this next turn.

Kudos to Russia and Turkey for breaking up the alliance against them. That's skill.
I think that your hardon for Indy has corrupted your analysis. In case you hadn't noticed, the "alliance" between France, Germany and UK had Germany and UK attacking French Belgium twice and just had the UK attacking French MAO. Most people understand that when two countries are constantly attacking a third country, those three countries are not in an "alliance."

Turkey may become strong, and the balance of power may shift, but one cannot worry about the long run if they do not survive in the short run.

Kudos to the GM for allowing a vendetta to corrupt his analysis of the game. That's bias.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:51 PM   #532 (permalink)
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I was just thinking about how Drake's comments blaming billy for breaking apart the German-UK-Franco alliance reminded me of a scene from Aliens. Gimme a second to find the precise time index that I'm talking about.



-5:35, "Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events...."

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In other words bring it on Beotch
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:57 PM   #534 (permalink)
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I was just thinking about how Drake's comments blaming billy for breaking apart the German-UK-Franco alliance reminded me of a scene from Aliens. Gimme a second to find the precise time index that I'm talking about.



-5:35, "Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events...."

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There really never was a France-Germany-Britain alliance. There was a tentative peace, where all parties were communicating with the others. Everyone knew that some bullshit was up, and next turn you shall see who will come out the weaker.

On a different topic, those four Turkish Fleets and one Army about to invade Italy are scary. ><
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LOL so WEB I have a "hardon" for Indy (I'm confused, does that mean I like him or I don't like him?). I also have a vendetta against someone? Sounds quite dramatic.

Its obvious that Germany and the UK if they were working together were going to take on France. But as Caltex pointed out there was something to the affect of a de facto alliance against Russia and Turkey before any real all out war happens on the western front. More relevant is the fact that Italy and France were cooperating to hold back Turkey while Germany and the UK took on Russia. Call it whatever you want.

By the way, when I logged on today I didn't have any new messages in my inbox. When I went to my inbox I had like 6 new messages (people's orders) but all of them had apparently already been opened. You wouldn't know anything about that would you?
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:42 PM   #536 (permalink)
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LOL so WEB I have a "hardon" for Indy (I'm confused, does that mean I like him or I don't like him?). I also have a vendetta against someone? Sounds quite dramatic.
I'd like to comment on this, but im pretty sure WEB would ban me.

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If you are implying what I think you are implying then I have to agree. Because when WEB was in charge he some how knew that Germany and I would attack France, AH had no idea, because he was on his way aid austria, so either WEB can read our moves like a book, or he peeked into me and caltex's PM's. (Please don't ban me).

And if you already have 6 orders can you post up the new map?
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I already did post new maps.
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Because when WEB was in charge he some how knew that Germany and I would attack France, AH had no idea, because he was on his way aid austria, so either WEB can read our moves like a book, or he peeked into me and caltex's PM's. (Please don't ban me).
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I'd like to comment on this, but im pretty sure WEB would ban me.
Well when you get back, you go ahead and comment on it and take your chances.
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:58 PM   #540 (permalink)
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LOL so WEB I have a "hardon" for Indy (I'm confused, does that mean I like him or I don't like him?).
That's between you and Indy.

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I also have a vendetta against someone? Sounds quite dramatic.
Yeah, I don't know why you keep pushing an alliance against him. You're supposed to be the GM, you're not supposed to work to the detriment of one of your own players.

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Its obvious that Germany and the UK if they were working together were going to take on France. But as Caltex pointed out there was something to the affect of a de facto alliance against Russia and Turkey before any real all out war happens on the western front. More relevant is the fact that Italy and France were cooperating to hold back Turkey while Germany and the UK took on Russia. Call it whatever you want.
So France is supposed to just cede supply centers to Germany and the UK for the glorious cause of defeating the Turks. Is this a game of strategy or are your pretending that there is a Holy War against the Muslims Turks? It neither makes sense how you expect France to just allow itself to be battered by UK/Germany, nor why your number one objective is to stop Indy at all costs. Neither one makes sense from a logical or strategic point of view.

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By the way, when I logged on today I didn't have any new messages in my inbox. When I went to my inbox I had like 6 new messages (people's orders) but all of them had apparently already been opened. You wouldn't know anything about that would you?
I think it's an indication of a GM who wants to be banned and replaced. Is that what you're implying?
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