Socialism in the democratic party obama hillary - Political Forum

lordlactose · #1 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 12:43 PM

Let me ask you democrats a question seeing you think you know everything. I am confused I need you to explain this to me I need help.

Why is it you continue to fly out and vote for people like the clintons and obama. When they persist on raising welfare so the working class has to loose more and more to their pay checks to high taxes?

Why is it you continue to allow the sludge in the projects to sit around and do nothing for our country? Just raise their welfare checks so they don't contribute and the working class has to pay for it.

How come you haven't seen what socialism did to the soviet union, chile, cuba, and other dysfunctional countries. How come people like me who think socialism doesn't work are wrong?

Help me help me

lordlactose · #2 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainMike

LordLactose:

Joe McCarthy back from the grave?

Can you be more specific? A generalized commie-phobia? This country has been there and done that in the early 1950's. What specifically are you talking about with Obama's or Clinton's positions on issues? Give us a few examples of what you are calling socialism.

all osama obama and hillary the communist wanna do is raise taxes which leads to bureaucratic waste. Raise welfare and keep feeding these scummy project sludge when they could be working. Its like a black whole for money we are just sending it down the tubes through high taxes. These illegal immigrant and project slime could be working. But noooo they just would rather sit around and collect welfare.

Tebow4President · #3 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 12:57 PM

I think Socialism is working fine in all those European countries is it not?
Plus, a HUGE myth is that the rich don't like the welfare system, THEY LOVE IT. It keeps the poor - poor, and thats the only way you can have rich in a capitalist society. As the great writer Bob Marley sang, "Don't let em fool ya, oh-no."

lordlactose · #4 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tebow4President

I think Socialism is working fine in all those European countries is it not?
Plus, a HUGE myth is that the rich don't like the welfare system, THEY LOVE IT. It keeps the poor - poor, and thats the only way you can have rich in a capitalist society. As the great writer Bob Marley sang, "Don't let em fool ya, oh-no."

Yes it works in the European countries which could be doing even better. The reason it still works is they are mostly white. White people as a majority tend to work hard and accomplish more than minorities, but there are always exceptions. These Caucasian have done better in the past to because they are more intelligent than people in Africa, the middle east, and south america.

If they switched to capitalism they would do better. The rich don't like the welfare system. You can't profit from them if they are taking half your paycheck and spending it on beer and potato chips.

lordlactose · #5 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainMike

At worst you are negative stereotyping the Democrats for personal welfare to the poor, elderly and disabled. And the Republicans could get negative stereotyped for their corporate welfare, which accounts for much more in hand outs. For example, ExxonMobile has posted the highest profits of any US corporation in any quarter and in any year in US History, yet the Bush Republicans gave the billionaire corporation SUBSIDIES. This is the same corporation that has not paid its fair share for the clean up of Valdez, Alaska, while posting recording breaking profits.

And if you are citing socialism I need to cite real capitalism that is based on competition instead of government subsidies. Similarly, the medicare drug benefits you could call socialism by the same standards can be blamed directly on the Republicans. And on closer inspection in following the money, it was actually corporate welfare with huge benefits going to billionaire Pharmceutical corporations and HMOs.

Ok you stated rare minor exceptions to the rule. But if republicans screw up once in a while, but democrats mess everything up. Are you gooing to vote for the democrats instead wow that is backwards logic.

Tebow4President · #6 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lordlactose

Yes it works in the European countries which could be doing even better. The reason it still works is they are mostly white. White people as a majority tend to work hard and accomplish more than minorities, but there are always exceptions. These Caucasian have done better in the past to because they are more intelligent than people in Africa, the middle east, and south america.

If they switched to capitalism they would do better. The rich don't like the welfare system. You can't profit from them if they are taking half your paycheck and spending it on beer and potato chips.

Wow, white people work harder than monorities. I thought evolution had gotten rid of people like you.

lordlactose · #7 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 03:13 PM

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Wow, white people work harder than monorities. I thought evolution had gotten rid of people like you.

well they don't necessarily work harder, but when they do work they accomplish more, because the majority are more intelligent.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · #8 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lordlactose

Why is it you continue to fly out and vote for people like the clintons and obama. When they persist on raising welfare so the working class has to loose more and more to their pay checks to high taxes?

I guess the answer to your question is that most people, unlike yourself, do not consider the policies of David Duke and the KKK to be where they want this country to go. I am sure you would like to start some concentration camps and I think that you would find many more like-minded people to yourself among the Aryan Brotherhood in our nation's jails. It's a fitting place for people with your ideals and we can only hope that someday you will become better acquainted with them where they currently reside.

lordlactose · #9 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 05:28 PM

Still see that the people arguing with me can't come up with any good points. So they have resorted to personal attacks. You guys know you are wrong so you have become desperate.

rsather139 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lordlactose

Still see that the people arguing with me can't come up with any good points. So they have resorted to personal attacks. You guys know you are wrong so you have become desperate.

To address your previous point, the liberal parties have undoubtedly given us our finest presidents: Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy. Presidents who got us through the 3 toughest decisions and times our country has had to make: civil war, great depression/WWII, and Cuban Missile Crisis (where if you made one bad call your country was going to end up radioactive).

I would say that the last good conservative president who actually stood up for what he believed in was Eisenhower, but even he is tricky. Before him you have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt! Ever heard of Watergate and Iran-Contra? Or the current debacle our conservative president has gotten us into?

Your view of president is laughable.