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I am pretty sure Bo-Dean-Of-Hearts was being sarcastic.
I doubt it, but unless he tells us for sure, we can't know either way. I know many people personally who have had used marijuana and given the exact same opinion about it. They say it shouldn't be used for "recreation."
In fact now of course the debate in California is that medical marijuana is being abused. I have no problem with medical marijuana, people suffering from intolerably painful ailments such as cancer should be allowed to ease their suffering. However, then you factor in those who apply for medical marijuana for things such as "minor back arthritis"--about which even doctors being interviewed roll their eyes at--then people who once advocated medicinal marijuana even start to question it on the grounds that those who are in need become undermined by those selfish individuals who really aren't in need. That was in a news segment I watched within the last week in fact. Doctors who once advocated medicinal marijuana are now questioning it on what grounds? Pros versus cons.
There is no doubt that recreational marijuana is not needed in our society and there is no doubt that those who use it experience side effects that carry along with them an unnecessary health and safety risk to those around them, just like speeding and other unnecessarily risky behaviors. So besides medicinal marijuana (an isolated category of the substance which when controlled has a distinct beneficial purpose to the health and well-being of people suffering from very painful conditions, diseases, etc.) there is no logical reason for recreational marijuana to be legal. It's completely illogical.
You can say the same exact thing about cigarettes, alcohol, NyQuil...
Sure you could, but this topic isn't about those.
I think cigarettes alcohol, marijuana and all recreational drugs without purpose are distasteful, and the ones that affect mental health especially are dangerous--risky at best--and have no place in society.
And NyQuil actually has a purpose, by the way... Recreational marijuana does not. Once again, the "pros versus cons" aspect of these issues is what's imperative to the overall outcome. Medicinal marijuana when controlled and used in the way it's intended to be used--for appropriate conditions and ailments--also has a purpose and therefore I have no problem with it. Yes, there are bound to still be those unnatural risky side effects that come along with it, as with any prescribed or over the counter drug. However, because medicinal marijuana has a truly beneficial purpose that is intended to ease suffering, as long as it's purpose is not abused, the pros of medicinal marijuana outweigh the cons.
I doubt it, but unless he tells us for sure, we can't know either way. I know many people personally who have had used marijuana and given the exact same opinion about it. They say it shouldn't be used for "recreation."
What gave it away to me was the fact that there was a smiley in his post title and his frequent use of profanity.
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In fact now of course the debate in California is that medical marijuana is being abused. I have no problem with medical marijuana, people suffering from intolerably painful ailments such as cancer should be allowed to ease their suffering. However, then you factor in those who apply for medical marijuana for things such as "minor back arthritis"--about which even doctors being interviewed roll their eyes at--then people who once advocated medicinal marijuana even start to question it on the grounds that those who are in need become undermined by those selfish individuals who really aren't in need. That was in a news segment I watched within the last week in fact. Doctors who once advocated medicinal marijuana are now questioning it on what grounds? Pros versus cons.
I believe back arthristis is a legitimate condition that would qualify for medical cannabis, Mild really has nothing to do with it since what is the cut off point for pain treatment? Also cannabis is non-toxic with no record of overdose deaths in it's thousands of years of use.
As opposed to prescribed medication...
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(Average 1982-1998): According to Canadian researchers, approximately 32,000 hospitalized patients (and possibly as many as 106,000) in the USA die each year because of adverse reactions to their prescribed medications.
Also being a resident of CA I know first hand that the m.mj. issue gets alot of press. Most of it is knee-jerk negative press but there was an article that I read that said that citys that had a large amount of medical marijuana clinics (pot-clubs) had a DECREASE in crime. I will try and find the article and put up a link.
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Last edited by HenryDavidThoreau : 12-31-2007 at 07:55 PM.
I posted this in the other similarly related thread a while ago but I’ll post it here too, anyway:
I’ve been doing a lot of research lately and am trying to decide how important this issue is for me when I vote for the next president. How important is this issue to you when deciding whom to vote for? If it is important, I have good information about who supports it’s legalization/medical use.
My pick: Barack Obama A issue I’m concerned with Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
What gave it away to me was the fact that there was a smiley in his post title and his frequent use of profanity.
Well he used the sunglasses smiley, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was joking. Anyway, I guess I wasn't necessarily saying you were wrong in assuming he was being sarcastic, I was merely opening up the possibility that maybe he truly was being serious.
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I believe back arthristis is a legitimate condition that would qualify for medical cannabis
In the news segment I watched, this was confirmed not to be the case by the medical personnel interviewed. They said people who don't seriously need medicinal marijuana are essentially taking advantages of legal loopholes and it's morally undermining those who are really in need of the drug, and it's bringing into question whether or not we can continue providing the service in parts of California.
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Also cannabis is non-toxic with no record of overdose deaths in it's thousands of years of use.
Recreational cannabis use is illegal and it's that way for good reason, it's been established that there are no societal pros of marijuana and that there are outward unnecessary risks that come with the side effects of using it. The idea is that taking advantage of a legal benefit as some people are undoubtedly doing and turning it into a more or less recreational form of the drug brings into question the very idea of whether or not that legal benefit is even worth it. That's what these once pro medicinal marijuana advocates were saying in this news segment.
I have smoked weed almost every day for 20 years, but the reasons for legalization should be apparent to everyone, even if you've never tried it, or don't like marijuana yourself.
Civil liberties about covers it.
Last edited by Schadenfreude : 02-11-2008 at 01:00 AM.
Reason: punctuation & last sentence
My pick: Barack Obama A issue I’m concerned with Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
I wonder how easy it is to regulate it.
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