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Originally Posted by Shiva_TD
I think if you check the possession, cultivation, and sales of marijuana is still illegal in the Netherlands.
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I think if you're going to make such claims, you're the one burdened with backing them up. That's incorrect as the Netherlands is known for its "coffee shops" in which marijuana is distributed/sold, used/possessed freely without legal consequence. If you'd like to correct me on that, it's your prerogative to do so, and I welcome it... It would be nice for you to
rebut me/my arguments for a change, Shiva

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It has little relevance anyway... The point still stands that based on the comparison between two countries (Japan and the US) with the same one control factor (illegal marijuana) in a consistent observation (the theory that "marijuana prohibition creates crime" posed by many pro-drug advocates), there is no logical way to conclude that the prohibition of marijuana is responsible for elevated crime as:
A. it would negate the entire concept of criminals being responsible for the choices they make to engage in behaviors that lead to criminal activity
B. even though the control of the theory/observation between the two countries (the one factor imperative to the conclusion)--aka illegal marijuana--is the exact same, Japan enjoys a
much lower crime rate than the United States. If the "marijuana prohibition creates crime" theory was correct, based on the control--that one identical factor in both countries--they would be experiencing remarkably similar crime rates (which isn't the case).
And the Netherlands--even if what you say is true, is known for it's policy of "non-enforcement" which means if nothing else that marijuana use is socially accepted, and crime rates were shown to be much higher. Coincidence? It didn't seem to be according to statistics Netherlands, a site that pegged a massive spike in the murder rate (it
tripled in fact, and you can see that link on the page of this topic prior to this)--coinciding directly with the period of time in which the Netherlands was experimenting with its "non-enforcement" policy.