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View Poll Results: Should marijuana be legal?
Yes 18 72.00%
No 7 28.00%
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:03 AM
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Shite! I am seeing the results of this poll as if I voted. But I could swear this isn't the thread I posted on. How many pot threads are there? I must be hallucinating. I must cut back some day. Anyway, I vote YES, legalize marijuana.

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Old 12-12-2007, 01:13 AM
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I think if you check the possession, cultivation, and sales of marijuana is still illegal in the Netherlands.
I think if you're going to make such claims, you're the one burdened with backing them up. That's incorrect as the Netherlands is known for its "coffee shops" in which marijuana is distributed/sold, used/possessed freely without legal consequence. If you'd like to correct me on that, it's your prerogative to do so, and I welcome it... It would be nice for you to rebut me/my arguments for a change, Shiva .

It has little relevance anyway... The point still stands that based on the comparison between two countries (Japan and the US) with the same one control factor (illegal marijuana) in a consistent observation (the theory that "marijuana prohibition creates crime" posed by many pro-drug advocates), there is no logical way to conclude that the prohibition of marijuana is responsible for elevated crime as:

A. it would negate the entire concept of criminals being responsible for the choices they make to engage in behaviors that lead to criminal activity

B. even though the control of the theory/observation between the two countries (the one factor imperative to the conclusion)--aka illegal marijuana--is the exact same, Japan enjoys a much lower crime rate than the United States. If the "marijuana prohibition creates crime" theory was correct, based on the control--that one identical factor in both countries--they would be experiencing remarkably similar crime rates (which isn't the case).

And the Netherlands--even if what you say is true, is known for it's policy of "non-enforcement" which means if nothing else that marijuana use is socially accepted, and crime rates were shown to be much higher. Coincidence? It didn't seem to be according to statistics Netherlands, a site that pegged a massive spike in the murder rate (it tripled in fact, and you can see that link on the page of this topic prior to this)--coinciding directly with the period of time in which the Netherlands was experimenting with its "non-enforcement" policy.
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:51 AM
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Cool what the fuck!

What the fuck!!

This is acctually ridiculous...
of course Marijuana should'nt be legal!
why would it be illegal if it was'nt bad for you!

as an ex-stoner i know how addictive it is and i know how it makes you feel.
Wow who would have thought that what they teach you in school is true!!
fuck me dead!

i dare anyone to try to justify the use of marijuana in a non medical use.!!
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:23 PM
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i dare anyone to try to justify the use of marijuana in a non medical use.!!
I accept your dare.

I outline the reasons for completely legalizing marijuana on the top of this page:
Decrim of Marijuana (part 5)
If you have anything to say in rebuttal you may do it there.
If that’s too long of a read for you, I suggest reading the first two pages of this Harvard study

FYI, American opinion to legalize marijuana:

Who-Supports-Marijuana-Legalization
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:13 PM
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What the fuck!!

This is acctually ridiculous...
of course Marijuana should'nt be legal!
why would it be illegal if it was'nt bad for you!

as an ex-stoner i know how addictive it is and i know how it makes you feel.
Wow who would have thought that what they teach you in school is true!!
fuck me dead!

i dare anyone to try to justify the use of marijuana in a non medical use.!!
You can say the same exact thing about cigarettes, alcohol, NyQuil...
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:03 PM
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I am pretty sure Bo-Dean-Of-Hearts was being sarcastic.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:21 PM
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Could be… Others have been just as vigorous in their *prohibition beliefs on this forum before though.
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Could be… Others have been just as vigorous in their anti-prohibition beliefs on this forum before though.
I think you want to edit out the "anti" in your post. Methinks anyway.
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