Agood post with good points.

So I take it you've never had the peasure of sitting next to some fat overwight slob on a bus who is sweating and is one heartbeat away from a heart attack.
Fast food+junk food+ no excrsise = obeicity one of the highest if not the highest reasons for death in America.
And if not it leads to diet pills yet another drug precription.

Sure it is. It's

• Unnecessarily risky
• A mindless indulgence
• Selfish (individualistic)
• Weak--it's a mental addiction and is not needed for any aspect of life
• Unhealthy--to more people than just the user
• Impairs cognitive abilities - Decision making capabilities (that says it all)

Marijuana is stupid. People who use marijuana deserve to be punished by society's standards and that's why they are... It's a choice. They make the choice. They suffer the consequences. The potential hazard of their actions, and the unnecessary risk of the drug is enough to peak society's concern about it--especially considering that it has no societal value in the first place.

Ah, yes, Wikipedia, the editable encyclopedia. I hope you don't expect this to be taken too very seriously. If you're using it to emphasize or embellish an argument, sobeit, but if this is an actual "source," you should know it's a terrible one.
Who's the cause of those resources being spent? Who is at the source of those resources? Drug users. Drug users continue to use stupid drugs--full well knowing that their actions are against the law. Police cannot discriminate and they shouldn't. They enforce all laws. That's their job. But the paradox and fallacy behind that argument is that drug users are at fault for those resources going to combat drug use... Why? Well hmmm... Maybe because they're the ones who continue to use the drugs--despite that they know what the consequences will be?
Too bad. Choices result in consequences. This is a ridiculous and anarchical argument. This is by no mean society's fault. Those who continue to actually use the drugs despite the fact that they're idiotic, worthless, harmful, and of course--illegal--are at fault for all these things. They choose to defy reasonable laws and society must uphold those laws. It's no different for any issue. Is there any "victim" with people who speed in motor vehicles? No. But it's a huge, stupid risk and it has no beneficial value to society. So it's illegal. The only difference between such issues is that potheads are so much more persistent and selfish about demanding that society give them what they want. Hell, I want to drive fast. I want to speed around in a fast car. But I can't. Because it's stupid, irrational, and potentially hazardous to myself and those around me. So I don't. Do I demand that society give me the "right" to speed? Hell no, that's absurd, it's stupid, and it's anarchical.
Black markets will always exist. Black markets even carry market products that are expensive for much less price. When market prices go up for certain products, you'll find those products on the black market. It's a common misconception that black markets deal only with illegal goods and services. Black markets will not die, they will always function. The black market argument is a huge fallacy.
Isn't it sad what drug users have caused? Isn't it appalling that selfish drug addicts have caused these economic resources to go toward fighting their stupid selfish crimes rather than allowing them to go to other good, helpful areas of society? Once again, this involves the fallacy of blaming the law for doing its job... Against criminals who are causing the real problems. Criminals are the source. Drug addicts who are selfishly using worthless substances that have no societal value--yet are outwardly unhealthy, unpleasant, and potentially hazardous--are causing these problems.

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This debate isn't about obesity. This debate is about recreational marijuana... Those diet pills are for more than just obesity, also. And once again, they have a purpose that's designed to combat something unhealthy... Marijuana induces side effects that are unhealthy... That argument doesn't really go anywhere.

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Your argument is bypassing the point. They have side-effects, but they have a beneficial purpose and they are prescribed by professionals to combat medical conditions... It's a beneficial balance. Recreational marijuana is a selfish drug that has no beneficial purpose to society and it has negative side effects, so there's no balance--it's just negative. Yes, prescription drugs can be misused and even abused. That's why they're issued by prescription--by medical professionals.

"How many people have been addicted to prescription drugs?"

That's a good question, but you'll need more specific of a context than that. Some people become addicted merely by accident. Others intentionally abuse prescription drugs. Those who chose to abuse them should be punished--no different from drugs like marijuana. Those who have become addicted by accident, so to speak--following the prescription, but experienced chemical reactions or conflict with an addictive personality--are given assistance. It's all about choice.

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True it is all about choice, but isn't that's what this debate is about?
Or should the right to choose be restricted to the pharmicutical drug companies.
It is my beleif that if pharmicutical drug companies could exract thc from marujania and make it into a pill and change the name there would be no debate even though thc is the drug in marijunai that makes you high.

This debate is wether marijunai should be legal or not.
When it is based on it should be illegal because of the unhealthy side effects it produces,one must ask what about the other products that produce unhealthy side effects that are just as bad, sometimes worce that are legal.

That's why I'm not opposed to medical marijuana. We've been through this numerous times before. Recreational marijuana is by definition used for an individualistic, stupid, wasteful high. It's not beneficial to society in any way--no societal value. That's fine by itself, but then you add the side effects, the unhealthiness, the unpleasantness and potential hazard caused by the drug, and it's a sealed deal--there's no rational reason to allow recreational marijuana in this society. Medical marijuana is different. Why? Because if it's regulated, prescribed by medical professionals, enforced, etc., it has a beneficial purpose and is valued to society--despite the side effects. It balances out. It's the difference between recreational use/abuse, and prescribed medical assistance by professionals. It's a distinct difference.

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I've explained this at least 4 times now. It's the difference between recreational drugs/which is abuse of drugs (individualistic selfish and stupid reasons for taking them) and medications prescribed my medical professionals for a purpose that is beneficial to human beings and has a value to society. Both recreational/abused drug use and prescription drugs have side effects, but only one of them has an actual beneficial purpose and true value to society to balance that out.

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...which only effects the person who is using the marijuana. It is someone's right to be able to act poorly to people that they are around.


The link just explained an increase in crime and it is interesting but it could have been from anything, but marijuana could of added to it.