How to beat an opium economy - Political Forum

CHUQ · 12-02-2006, 07:48 AM

RIGA: At NATO's summit meeting in Riga this week, one thing was undisputed: In order to save Afghanistan from turning into a narco-state the all-invasive drug industry has to be crushed. The opium business sustains a clan-based and crime-ridden society, it impedes Afghanistan's economic growth, hinders reconstruction efforts of the international community, and ultimately fuels instability and terrorism.

Can the narco-economy be beaten? Is it feasible?

How to beat the opium economy - Opinion - International Herald Tribune

Brother Oz · 12-10-2006, 09:39 AM

The Taleban managed to reduce Opium growing by about 2-thirds, but we won't be able to do that.
Better to allow them to grow opium and buy it to make morphine, there's a global shortage of morphine anyway.

USViking · 12-13-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUQ

RIGA: At NATO's summit meeting in Riga this week, one thing was undisputed: In order to save Afghanistan from turning into a narco-state the all-invasive drug industry has to be crushed. The opium business sustains a clan-based and crime-ridden society, it impedes Afghanistan's economic growth, hinders reconstruction efforts of the international community, and ultimately fuels instability and terrorism.

Can the narco-economy be beaten? Is it feasible?

How to beat the opium economy - Opinion - International Herald Tribune

The undergound, illegal, violent, wasteful, gross narco-economy
can be beaten only by setting the clock back 100 years, and now
legaizing all that was legal in 1906. Every one of the damn things
are beyond law enforcement now, aren't they? Opium- sure! Coke-sure! Gange?- sure!

The best policy for health is, of course, to use little of all these,
or none. However, using more than a little does not eliminate initiative
and resonsibility enough to warrant the legal restrictions we practice.

There have been a few other things since then, like Angel Dust
and LSD which should never be legalized. The jury is in on them,
and they deform the mind enough to be banned.

Slartibartfas · 12-14-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Oz

The Taleban managed to reduce Opium growing by about 2-thirds, but we won't be able to do that.
Better to allow them to grow opium and buy it to make morphine, there's a global shortage of morphine anyway.

Not anymore. World prizes for drugs are dumbling. I really wait to see dealers running around with special christmas offers...

It seems currentl like a good time to kill yourself with Heroine. Interestingly, the low prize does not seem to have much effect on the demand. Thats at least good news. And perhaps the best argument that will leed to a leveling of Afghanistans capacities. There simply is a point where they won't find enough customers anymore.

Slartibartfas · 12-14-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by USViking

The undergound, illegal, violent, wasteful, gross narco-economy
can be beaten only by setting the clock back 100 years, and now
legaizing all that was legal in 1906. Every one of the damn things
are beyond law enforcement now, aren't they? Opium- sure! Coke-sure! Gange?- sure!

The best policy for health is, of course, to use little of all these,
or none. However, using more than a little does not eliminate initiative
and resonsibility enough to warrant the legal restrictions we practice.

There have been a few other things since then, like Angel Dust
and LSD which should never be legalized. The jury is in on them,
and they deform the mind enough to be banned.

But LSD does not even make you addicted.

Well, it can severely fuck up your psych, but thats another story...

(thats a "can", not a "always")

USViking · 12-14-2006, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

But LSD does not even make you addicted.

Well, it can severely fuck up your psych, but thats another story...

(thats a "can", not a "always")

We have both known people with the permanent glassy eyes
of the mental deformation LSD can lead to.

Public_Enemy · 12-14-2006, 04:05 AM

the narco-economy could be beaten only there would be no more deep states, covered operations, black ops, hidden supports for terrorists or contras , firms etc.. premium finance source of these operations is narco-economy.

Slartibartfas · 12-14-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by USViking

We have both known people with the permanent glassy eyes
of the mental deformation LSD can lead to.

Of course, LSD can make you more or less brain dead, but this brain dead won't be addicted to LSD. Thats a difference, even though it might not be so important.

CHUQ · 12-14-2006, 05:01 AM

There is a plan to spray the poppy fields with herbicide to try and control the flow of opium. My only question is, what will it do to the population? Will itbe another form of "agent orange"?

Slartibartfas · 12-14-2006, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CHUQ

There is a plan to spray the poppy fields with herbicide to try and control the flow of opium. My only question is, what will it do to the population? Will itbe another form of "agent orange"?

Cool proposal. Just fuck up nature, to solve some random drugs issue, that causes a rather limited number of deaths when set into relations. (Or how many of your relatives gave themselves already a golden shot?)