Nash

if thats the case then you would define yourself as a human being but you dont you give youself 3 classifications .. gay, homosexual, lesbian, all of which mean that you have sex with the same sex, your name lesbian defines that you sleep with another woman does it define anything else?


remember this is looked at as a war and if you decied to come out realize that theres a whole lot of people that donot like homosexuals.


killing innocent people is wrong i agree


you have brought that all on yourself you know that the world does not like homsexuals so why stand up and shout it out and bring attention to yourself
look i know its wrong what happened to you but you are to blame to,if you practiced your lifestyle quietly then none of this would have happened to you or your kids. Majority of the world is dissgusted with your lifestyle it would be wise to keep quiet for now but no you decied to be outspoken and dont care what the world says or how you are viewed remember this is like a war and you have just gave up your position so what happens the enemy to you will attack you.Homosexuals won the war once in sodom and gommorow and the world is fighting to make sure that that does not happen again. Nobody hates you but if you are not going to be quiet or practice your gayness in quiet then expect no peace




the same is said about your lifestyle

uhhhh yeah they were!!!


being homosexual is being sexual !!

tresha

I brought it on myself?
So, threatening people and vandalizing their property and terrifying their children is okay and to be expected, but you draw the line at killing people?
Nice to know you have some lines drawn somewhere.

Yes, I know there are those who would wish to declare war on homosexuals and in my mind, some already have.
Btw, Nash, I didnt' decide to "stand up and shout it out and bring attention to myself" until after I started being attacked.

And I would love to see some statistics that show the "the majority of the world is disgusted with your lifestyle"

And once again, I bring it back to this:
Even if I am not physically about to attack you or the ones you love my mere acknowledged existence is enough reason to beat me? To set fire to things I own and to threaten and terrify my children?
Is this really what you are saying Nash?

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africanhope

ANd HEterosexual is being sexual Nash? It is not about love between a man and wife? Rubish. Being homosexual means to be attracted to the same sex, not having sex with someone with the same sex. I am unable to love a women in the way other men love a women, wich (in normal relationships, likeI have) means more than sex. Being homosexual, like being heterosexual, is not only about sex.

When you get that Nash...

AH

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“From the point of view of the pharmaceutical industry, the AIDS problem has already been solved. After all, we already have a drug which can be sold at the incredible price of $8, 000 an annual dose, and which has the added virtue of not diminishing the market by actually curing anyone.”

africanhope

Oh, and let me add. The saddest thing on this thread is not the things said, but thae fact that 4 pages of insulting remarks had to be deleted by the Mods (and can I just thank the mods for their sterling job, I am not attacking you, but the sadtfact that so many insulting posts were made)

AH

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“The subject no longer has to be mentioned by name. Someone is sick. Someone else is feeling better now. A friend has just gone back into the hospital. Another has died. The unspoken name, of course, is AIDS.”
“From the point of view of the pharmaceutical industry, the AIDS problem has already been solved. After all, we already have a drug which can be sold at the incredible price of $8, 000 an annual dose, and which has the added virtue of not diminishing the market by actually curing anyone.”

Nash

killing people is to be expected as well, I draw the line at hurting another person and all acts of violence. However you brought it on your self comming out of the closet and letting people know your gay knowing how the world views your kind. If you remained quiet and never came out then who would know that you were a lesbian.


yes but how did people know you were homosexual? you let it be known that you were homosexual and once that info got out then you have brought it on yourself, if you remained quiet then no attacks on you would be made

well the majority people are attacking you

no it is not reason to beat you but remember if you are not sensitive to the fact that alot of people is at war with you then you would be very careful and not expose yourself then these things will happen to you. This is also why homosexuality is not natural because you dont see this happining to straight people because their straight. Yes it is wrong the way you are being treated but if you keep quiet then you will not go through this.

so i guess being attracted has nothing to do with the piece of meat hanging between our legs?? we are attracted but do not want sex??? Being homo sexual means that not only are you attracted to the same sex but you have sex with the same sex

I am unable to love a women in the way other men love a women, wich (in normal relationships, likeI have) means more than sex. Being homosexual, like being heterosexual, is not only about sex.

When you get that Nash...



???????? what does this have to do with the price of rice in China

africanhope

Weare not discussing the price of rice in China, now are we. I added my thoughts, i am allowed to in an open forum. Live with it.

But to your 'points'. Does it have something to do with the penis (that is the word for it Nash), as I have said, that is part of it, but not all of it. It is about more than sex, since our elatuionships are about more than sex, or in anyway, it is suppose to be.

And about your points to Tresha. There wasa time when the mayority of Europeans thought being Jewish was wring, we learned form that, didn't we. There wasa time when a mayority of white Americans thought that African Americans are not true Americans and should have lessrights than others. What did we learn from that? There was a time when the mayority of people agreed with the condemnation of peoplesayingthe world is round.

So we learn just because the mayority thinks something is wrong and evil does not make it so. And, I agree with Tresha, give us the stats. I think the mayority is just apatheic - they do not care one way or another.

And lastly. Are you honsetly asking people to hide who they are? Do you have any idea of the psycological damage that does to a person? Can you begin to imagine not being able to share a huge part of your life with the people you love? Imagine, if you can, that you are totaly in love with someone, and that person leaves you, or dies, and you can not share that pain with your loved ones. I mean, honestly imagine that...

And I have said this so many times beofre. People push homosexuality underground. They insist it should happen where no one cansee it. They refure homosexuals the right to hold hands, show love to each other in public (a vital part of keeping a relationship healthy) and then they point fingers when gays have sex in toilets, and fail to maintain a relationship. It is time to put 2 and 2 together.

And again, NAsh,stop generalising. I have never been to a gay prie, nor will I ever go.
by fiancee and I do not kiss or hold hands in public ( it is legal here), not because we are afriad (it would be brave bashers who attack us), but because we understand it might upset other people (mostly thinking of the elderly here, not bigots).

AH

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“From the point of view of the pharmaceutical industry, the AIDS problem has already been solved. After all, we already have a drug which can be sold at the incredible price of $8, 000 an annual dose, and which has the added virtue of not diminishing the market by actually curing anyone.”

ninatroup

I don't quite see how you can compare homosexuality with Downs'. I think homosexuality is in the genes, but that modern society has meant that as it becomes more socially acceptable, people are more willing to admit it, rather than repress. There have always been stories about somody and homosexuality across history, so you can't say that it's a "modern" thing either, as historical accounts prove that it clearly isn't.

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Nash

you dont even need the majority, and to these statments you forgot to add that there was a time when the Sodomites and Gommorwites thought that the the whole world should be homosexual and the majority of the inhabitants of these places thought so to, what did we learn form that??


Yeah the key word here is IMAGINE!! now come back to reality people have learned from soddom and gommorow and homosexuals are trying to to have a renasaince of that and you expect that no one will say something??people will fight not to see that happen again some will take it further than others and kill so it is best for you lot to stay silent dont tell anyone. Now if you get a rebirth of sodom and gommorow then be proud and speak out and shout till your hearts roll over.


no you push it underground because you know its unnatural, SEX IN TOILETS???? that is f'n nasty who the hell wouldnt point fingers?? that is disgusting i dont want to be dropping a load and hear two guys screwing ewwwwww go get a hotel room or do it in the privacy of your own home. And you wonder why people are displeased with you.

gue0

In order to search for genetic encoding you have to be able to recognize what you're looking for. It is precisely that we haven't identified a physical marker to account for the differences between the heterosexual and the homosexual behaviors that one hasn't been found. The larger and more looming question would seem to be of a socio/pathologic origin. How has the environment contributed to the prevalence of this deviation from the standard? What other earmarks exist that can provide a correlative to statistical increase or decrease? In other words, has something like over crowding and competition cause a decrease in the instinct to generate offspring? This would not diminish an individual's need for love and sexual expression. Indeed, development of a child and the genetic imprint in his brain is profoundly affected by his environment while he is growing. This might be that although he has turned out heterosexual, his children may display aberrant behaviors, indicating maybe the difference will be found in his father's DNA.

ninatroup

Wow. Generalising much are we? Not every gay person has sex in toilets. There are straight people who do equally derogatory things and who don't get slammed for it. Homosexuality shouldn't be pushed underground. Two guys in love - why shouldn't it be celebrated? Love is love at the end of the day. Who cares if they can't have kids? I doubt it's the end of the world.

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