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10-30-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
Well sure you think it is a mental disorder or disease, as well as immoral, but that is not logical disproof that it is not driven by a biological impulse as well. If you want to call it a disease, even then you are implicitly admitting it is biological (although of course with the negative word choice, but biological nonetheless).
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Well if a man cant help but sneak out of his own house and go have sex with another man, I dont know what else to call it. Man has the ability to reason and to control his urges. If he cant help but go hump the nearest man then something is wrong upstairs no?
We are not like stallions, where if we put a mare in heat in front of him, we cant control ourselves and try to mount or kill the nearest living thing. Or a dog who smells a female in heat and starts humping a pillow. That is all instinct driven. A man willingly having covert-op sex with another man is a mental thing, not instinct.
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10-30-2007, 04:02 PM
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Homosexuality is natural it could be a population control mechanism.
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10-30-2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oxymoron
Homosexuality is natural it could be a population control mechanism.
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Is this an oxymoron?
How can it be natural, yet could be a population control mechanism?
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10-30-2007, 04:11 PM
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I hear a theory, a idiotic one, about homosexuallity. It is simply this-when an egg is split (twins, boy and girl) the female gene accidentaly gets in the male DNA. Resulting in confusion about sexuallity.
I believe this is SLIGHTY possible, but actually leading to gayness is absurd. Maybe give a little confusion, and act differently but please...Oh, and not every gay person in the world is a twin...explain that?!
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10-30-2007, 04:12 PM
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Homosexuality is natural it could be a population control mechanism.
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possible. But I still think gay's were sexually abused as children...that or they are just mental
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10-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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Well Lessgov, if a man cheats on his wife, with another woman, is that also a mental disorder???? Cause he will sure do it secretly, as not to get caught, and loose his wife.
Many gay peole have sex sectretly, because of the reactions we sometimes see on this board, as in the OP, to homosexuality, nothingto do with mental disorder.
And as to choose or born, I agree with WEB. Some people are born gay, not necesarily trhough genes, otehrs are made gay, others choose to be gay. Justas some people are born red headed, others decide or what ever reason to colour their heair red, and others are forced to by the sick people of the Militant Redheaded/Ginger Alliance.
But still, and I have asked this many times, i do not quite see how it matters. If people are born gay, they are entiteld to all rights etc, as people born heterosexual. If the choose to be homosexual, hen, under freedom of choice, they also deserve those rights, right?
I truly do not see the esence of this argument.
Now for the OP. As to studies about gay animals, again, I do not know how it matters, but I have read reports by farmers about homosexual activities amongst their animals, and then there is this one:
Sexuality may be all in your ... brain
which personally even I find a bit silly, but still, try and force a worm to be gay.
IS it natural? Well, is marriage natural? Nope. Yet we are quite happy to do it, and even proclaim it as vital.
AH
PS. And trust me, not all gays are molested as children. No way no how.
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10-30-2007, 04:25 PM
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AfricanHope then show me where people are born gay? Prove it. If you are born gay it must be genetic or else you couldnt be born gay.
Abuse is a common characteristic of gay people.
A man that cheats on his wife is screwed up in the head as well if you ask me.
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10-30-2007, 04:31 PM
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AfricanHope then show me where people are born gay? Prove it. If you are born gay it must be genetic or else you couldnt be born gay..
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Wheres the genetic marker that makes you straight?
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10-30-2007, 04:32 PM
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I did ask you, thank you for that answer. The fact is, Lessgov, it doesn't matter how many scietific theories andtest we show you, saying being gay is genetic, you will give just as many saying it isn't. So what is the use. I know of a local genetics guru here, who was quite adamaant that being homsexual is choice, not geneteics (he is also a very devout Christian) and then he suddenly changes his tune, what led him to this change, his son, a rather nice, christian boy, told him he is gay.
I will go with what gay people themselves say about it, as the scientist doesn't seem to agree. And I have met some who would admit that certain circumstances led them to a homosexual lifestyle, and others who believe they were born that way. Tell me, Lessgov, in a country where you are hanged for homosexuality, whe your family will turn you over, and where you have to have sex, if you are brave enough, under the constant fear of death, why oh why would you choose to be gay.
An, I was wondering why you did not answer all my questions above, why on erath deos it matter?
AH
PS. Pleasee givethe proof that abuse is the common catereistic, of gay people. It does sometime s happen, but really, the major cause, no way.
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10-30-2007, 04:39 PM
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I did ask you, thank you for that answer. The fact is, Lessgov, it doesn't matter how many scietific theories andtest we show you, saying being gay is genetic, you will give just as many saying it isn't. So what is the use. I know of a local genetics guru here, who was quite adamaant that being homsexual is choice, not geneteics (he is also a very devout Christian) and then he suddenly changes his tune, what led him to this change, his son, a rather nice, christian boy, told him he is gay.
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Ok well that is just his opinion then...lol. That is not science is it?
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An, I was wondering why you did not answer all my questions above, why on erath deos it matter?
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It doesn't, until the left tries to ram them down my throat and force private organizations to start accepting them or else they will blacklist them.
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PS. Pleasee givethe proof that abuse is the common catereistic, of gay people. It does sometime s happen, but really, the major cause, no way.
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I never said it was THE common characteristic, I said it was one of the common characteristics. I never said it was the major cause.
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