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Old 11-28-2006, 09:28 PM
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What is evil?

What is evil? Is it the "I" or is it the "We"? I've noticed that government is now used to further the weak (the weak being those that will not do for themselves, those that want to feed off of those that will produce or those that can and do). Instead of encouraging growth, instead of encouraging innovation, they work to tear down Man. The Weak, the We use the banner of the "common good" to take that which does not belong to them.

Let's say that I come up with a cure for AIDS. I've put in my time, money and talent and now I can cure AIDS with one shot. Would I be evil if I sell that shot for what the free market will allow? What right would anyone have to tell me that I can't? Did they come up with this cure? Did they put the time and effort in to discover it?
So what would happen? My guess is that the police power of government would be used to take it away from me. To force me to work for the weak, to basically throw me into slavery to feed the growing plague of parasites that now infest our world.
So what is evil? He that produces, or he that takes?

It is one thing to decide to share, to give away. But that is something that should be left to the individual.
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:51 PM
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You seem to be suggesting that the weak and under-privileged are evil.
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Bug--of course you can sell it! That is why it is called capitalism. Now if a debate were to start, the question should be is capialism evil?
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:38 AM
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I think we label lots of things as evil because we aren't reactive to what we see as 'evil' and we're not really seeing what actually going on. Not to say there's no such thing as 'evil' acts, but generally I think that is pretty true.

I think that most of the world's evil is built up of myriad of small selfishnesses and attempts to gain advantage over others. Over time, these many small acts of selfishness imperceptibly, generate vast social harm, much more harm than deliberate acts of evil.

Harm from non-human sources (a hurricane, attack from an animal) is tragedy, not evil.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:42 AM
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What is evil? Is it the "I" or is it the "We"? I've noticed that government is now used to further the weak (the weak being those that will not do for themselves, those that want to feed off of those that will produce or those that can and do). Instead of encouraging growth, instead of encouraging innovation, they work to tear down Man. The Weak, the We use the banner of the "common good" to take that which does not belong to them.

Let's say that I come up with a cure for AIDS. I've put in my time, money and talent and now I can cure AIDS with one shot. Would I be evil if I sell that shot for what the free market will allow? What right would anyone have to tell me that I can't? Did they come up with this cure? Did they put the time and effort in to discover it?
So what would happen? My guess is that the police power of government would be used to take it away from me. To force me to work for the weak, to basically throw me into slavery to feed the growing plague of parasites that now infest our world.
So what is evil? He that produces, or he that takes?

It is one thing to decide to share, to give away. But that is something that should be left to the individual.
Bug, if you came up with the cure of AIDS and chose to sell it, you would be doing good as we live in a Capitalist society.Money would be made through it anyhow, whether you sold it or the govt. used it. Cancer is just as big of a problem and we have people pay for the treatment for that. HIV/AIDS, while it is a terrible disease, should be no different. I would say if the policing of the govt. took it away, you should at least be compensated duely (via a large sum of money). To not compensate you for your miraculous discovery would be a huge injustice.

In this case, he who takes is the one in the wrong.
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You seem to be suggesting that the weak and under-privileged are evil.
I'm suggesting that those that would use the police power of government to take that which they did not earn are evil.
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Bug, if you came up with the cure of AIDS and chose to sell it, you would be doing good as we live in a Capitalist society.Money would be made through it anyhow, whether you sold it or the govt. used it. Cancer is just as big of a problem and we have people pay for the treatment for that. HIV/AIDS, while it is a terrible disease, should be no different. I would say if the policing of the govt. took it away, you should at least be compensated duely (via a large sum of money). To not compensate you for your miraculous discovery would be a huge injustice.

In this case, he who takes is the one in the wrong.
So then why is it ok to for governments to take health care from those that produce it and give it away? Why is it ok for the government to take education from those that will teach it and give it away? Why is it ok for government to take money from those that have made it and give it away? Why is it ok for government to take from those that would save their money and give it to others?
If I came up with that cure I'd charge like mad for it, and make enough in a year to retire.
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Bug--of course you can sell it! That is why it is called capitalism. Now if a debate were to start, the question should be is capialism evil?
No. Those that use the police power of government to take from those that produce are evil.
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I'm suggesting that those that would use the police power of government to take that which they did not earn are evil.
Are you a Libertarian?
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