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Old 10-25-2007, 05:55 PM
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Yes it does. Condition B isn't accepted... The wording is very clear on that one--society doesn't accept it plain and simple--and condition C simply elaborates on Condition B. There is a lack of accepted safety for the use of the drug. That's what we've been debating--the unnecessary risk to the health and safety of non-users resulting from the use of marijuana. Once again it's a matter of pros versus cons. Because of the negative side-effects that outwardly affect people besides the users, it's not worth the risk--therefore it's deemed as being unacceptable in accordance with safety standards even in a medical context. That's how marijuana meets conditions B and C for you in a nutshell.
What are you talking about did you read my post, I am asking those who do not agree with legalization if they would agree with the lowering of cannabis from schedule 1 to a lower schedule to one where it can be used as medicine federally. If I was not being clear than sorry.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:59 PM
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So say you walk into a store and they are selling saliva in a bottle. What does the store manager expect you to use it for? The only other use I can think of would be to turn it into a medicine for someone with Alzheimer’s. But wouldn’t you then get it at a pharmacy instead? I actually don’t know what other uses Saliva has… Do you?
If it is sold in a bottle, the recommended uses are on the bottle.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:06 PM
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What are you talking about did you read my post, I am asking those who do not agree with legalization if they would agree with the lowering of cannabis from schedule 1 to a lower schedule to one where it can be used as medicine federally. If I was not being clear than sorry.
I would say no, there are other, safer drugs that can be used medically. Marijuana is smoked with no filter and it is held in the lungs, this means that one joint, causes more damage than one cigarette (of the same size). My wife's step father uses medical marijuana (he lost his toes and half of his feet from an infection) and he grows more than he is supossed to and shares it with my wife's mother (in fact, just about every one in her family smokes pot, mom, dad, stepmom, stepdad, one of two brothers, sister, two aunts, uncle, and several of her cousins) and I've recieved a call at 2 in the morning from her mom's cell phone (because I have caller I.D.) where they left a message on my phone of them giggling for about 3 minutes.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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I would say no, there are other, safer drugs that can be used medically. Marijuana is smoked with no filter and it is held in the lungs, this means that one joint, causes more damage than one cigarette (of the same size). My wife's step father uses medical marijuana (he lost his toes and half of his feet from an infection) and he grows more than he is supossed to and shares it with my wife's mother (in fact, just about every one in her family smokes pot, mom, dad, stepmom, stepdad, one of two brothers, sister, two aunts, uncle, and several of her cousins) and I've recieved a call at 2 in the morning from her mom's cell phone (because I have caller I.D.) where they left a message on my phone of them giggling for about 3 minutes.
Marijuana can be eaten and used with a vaporizor which both prevent lung damage. Also here is a list of drugs that have a lower schedule than cannabis.

Cocaine, opium, methadone, oxycodone, Amphetamine, methamphetamine, morphine, codiene, Ketamine, PCP, anabolic steroids etc. These drugs are all worse than cannabis yet legal to use in medicine.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:18 PM
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Marijuana can be eaten and used with a vaporizor which both prevent lung damage. Also here is a list of drugs that have a lower schedule than cannabis.

Cocaine, opium, methadone, oxycodone, Amphetamine, methamphetamine, morphine, codiene, Ketamine, PCP, anabolic steroids etc. These drugs are all worse than cannabis yet legal to use in medicine.
That is because these drugs (although much more dangerous when abused), have a useful side in medical purposes. Which is also why, when caught being abused, they have a more severe punishment.

off topic, but that reminds me of house when he uses magic mushrooms as a treatment.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:19 PM
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That is because these drugs (although much more dangerous when abused), have a useful side in medical purposes.

off topic, but that reminds me of house when he uses magic mushrooms as a treatment.
So does cannabis, it has a use in medicine for many conditions, and mushrooms are schedule 1 as well that treatment was illegal.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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So does cannabis, it has a use in medicine for many conditions, and mushrooms are schedule 1 as well that treatment was illegal.
ah, you got that before I edited it. the Mushrooms thing, though, was just a TV show. It can be used in medical treatment, but there are better options for the same medical advantages.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:42 PM
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What are you talking about did you read my post, I am asking those who do not agree with legalization if they would agree with the lowering of cannabis from schedule 1 to a lower schedule to one where it can be used as medicine federally. If I was not being clear than sorry.
My mistake, sorry. I would have no problem with that, as long as it was strictly medicinal; as long as it was supervised, or at least monitored/checked-up on by medical professionals. It comes close, but yes, in terms of strict medicinal use, in my eyes, anything that can benefit medical recovery, progress, etc. should at least be strongly considered, if nothing else. That does, however, raise the issue of supervision, and use of medicinal marijuana in moderation, etc.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:46 PM
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ah, you got that before I edited it. the Mushrooms thing, though, was just a TV show. It can be used in medical treatment, but there are better options for the same medical advantages.
It still does not matter cannabis does not meet two of the requirements for it to be schedule 1.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

As for "B" there is plenty of evidence that cannabis has medical applications.

As for "C" cannabis can be used safely with the use of a vaporizor or digested through food. It has an impossibly high toxic dose and can be used safely under medical supervision.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:52 PM
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It still does not matter cannabis does not meet two of the requirements for it to be schedule 1.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

As for "B" there is plenty of evidence that cannabis has medical applications.

As for "C" cannabis can be used safely with the use of a vaporizor or digested through food. It has an impossibly high toxic dose and can be used safely under medical supervision.
Everything has some medical benefit, even cutting yourself. The thing with pot, is there are so many safer and more efficent ways of producing the same benefit, which is why in many places it is not used. In most cases where it is used, it is only used to save the doctors money, because other better pain killers (the reason my step father in law, I guess you'd call him that, has it) are more expensive.
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