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Old 11-23-2006, 09:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Marijuana, Time For The Debate

Marijuana: 'It's time for debate'
Thousands of people smoke it here, but it can still land you in court and on the stop list. Now former Cabinet Minister Ashfield De Vent says it's time to take a fresh look at the pros and cons of marijuana.

"We need an open and honest debate," he said yesterday. "We need to appoint a commission that includes people from the judiciary, general members of society and the so-called experts on drugs and addiction."

Developing a certain classification for marijuana that separates it from drugs like cocaine and heroin, or even decriminalizing it, has been talked about here before, but it's always been behind closed doors.

So the article begins and I think it is right it is time for a honest debate on Marijuana.

Marijuana: 'It's time for debate'
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's dangerous garbage. However ALCOHOL is even MORE dangerous. For consistency they can't have it both ways though. They either both need to be legal or they both need to be ILLEGAL.
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They should legalize it. If the Christian Conservatives want to continue to oppose it they should give up their medicine cabinets in a show of good faith.
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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They should legalize it. If the Christian Conservatives want to continue to oppose it they should give up their medicine cabinets in a show of good faith.
This has absolutely nothing to do with "Christian conservatives". We're talking about legalizing weed or not.

Not all these evil "Christian conservatives" are against that.

Many people that AREN'T "Christian conservatives" would like to KEEP it illegal.

Ok, so now we've noted that "Christian conservatives" cause you constipation. Can we get back to the topic
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've advocated legalization, regulation, and education for awhile. That's probably the idealist in me though. I think from a more realistic standpoint there are certain substances and activities that people can't be trusted to protect themselves against. It's not a role that I like the government to take, but sometimes it's simply a necessary evil.

It's damn near impossible to speculate what would be the result of such actions though. The possibilities are numerous.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with "Christian conservatives". We're talking about legalizing weed or not.

Not all these evil "Christian conservatives" are against that.

Many people that AREN'T "Christian conservatives" would like to KEEP it illegal.

Ok, so now we've noted that "Christian conservatives" cause you constipation. Can we get back to the topic
Nice try.

The medical community sees the positive aspect of pot so who would the remaining opponets be? It's not liberals.

Ignorance of people who oppose legalization is what keeps pot illegal. Unless you have tried it how can anyone say it has an adverse effect on people. Everyone has been brainwashed into thinkintg that pot is a gateway drug that leads to more dangerous drugs. The only people that turn to harder drugs are the people who have an addictive personality to start with.

Christian Conservatives make up a bigger segment of the opposition than you are admitting.I'm willing to bet that if the lobbyist for the Christians and religous bible thumpers didn't push for making pot illegal it would be legalized.

Pot is nowhere near as dangerous as other drugs that are legal. How many rehab centers are there for pot smokers?

Police look the other way where personal use of pot is concerned.In many states it is a misdemeanor.It's not worth their time to do the paperwork involved.

You would be surprised at how many people smoke pot or have smoked pot that won't admit it.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've advocated legalization, regulation, and education for awhile. That's probably the idealist in me though. I think from a more realistic standpoint there are certain substances and activities that people can't be trusted to protect themselves against. It's not a role that I like the government to take, but sometimes it's simply a necessary evil.

It's damn near impossible to speculate what would be the result of such actions though. The possibilities are numerous.
It actually IS legal in one respect. A cancer patient, for instance, that is having nausea issues and problems with eating may be prescribed Marinol.

I just wish they'd be consistent and make weed legal or make both weed AND ETOH (alcohol) illegal. They're BOTH dangerous substances.

I guess I'm foolish to expect consistency from our Govt.

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Nice try.

The medical community sees the positive aspect of pot so who would the remaining opponets be? It's not liberals.

Ignorance of people who oppose legalization is what keeps pot illegal. Unless you have tried it how can anyone say it has an adverse effect on people. Everyone has been brainwashed into thinkintg that pot is a gateway drug that leads to more dangerous drugs. The only people that turn to harder drugs are the people who have an addictive personality to start with.

Christian Conservatives make up a bigger segment of the opposition than you are admitting.I'm willing to bet that if the lobbyist for the Christians and religous bible thumpers didn't push for making pot illegal it would be legalized.

Pot is nowhere near as dangerous as other drugs that are legal. How many rehab centers are there for pot smokers?

Police look the other way where personal use of pot is concerned.In many states it is a misdemeanor.It's not worth their time to do the paperwork involved.

You would be surprised at how many people smoke pot or have smoked pot that won't admit it.
Sorry, I'm going to make this quick-n-easy. I've done plenty of it. Yes, it IS a gateway drug. I use it no more because it makes a person lazy and useless and I can't afford THOSE aspects of it any longer.

I'm not going to argue with you because it's obvious what I'm going to get. I'll just say there isn't anything you'll be teaching ME about ANY illegal drugs OK :-)

I HAVE said that I think the govt. should be consistent and legalize it or make ALL shit illegal. Or make ALL shit LEGAL.

This "somes ok others ain't." crap is BS.
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Sorry, I'm going to make this quick-n-easy. I've done plenty of it. Yes, it IS a gateway drug. I use it no more because it makes a person lazy and useless and I can't afford THOSE aspects of it any longer.

I'm not going to argue with you because it's obvious what I'm going to get. I'll just say there isn't anything you'll be teaching ME about ANY illegal drugs OK :-)

I HAVE said that I think the govt. should be consistent and legalize it or make ALL shit illegal. Or make ALL shit LEGAL.

This "somes ok others ain't." crap is BS.
Don't give me the brush off . I know all about smoking dope.You are no expert so don't take the high road.Show me some research that says pot makes people lazy and useless.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Don't give me the brush off . I know all about smoking dope.You are no expert so don't take the high road. Show me some research that says pot makes people lazy and useless.
Done plenty of research myself :-) And watched many of my freinds ruin themselves using the same line of thought you're presently using.

So yes, I AM an expert. I'm not taking a high road, I've just chosen to get off the dead END road is all. You're more than welcome to stay ON that road if you will. You'll have no one but yourself to blame for any problems that occur or things that need done but don't GET done.

BTW if you're really INTERESTED, I'm sure you can find research about the long term effects of marijuana on people. Which you'll most likely dismiss as I used to do before I got OFF the shit.

Anywho, I'm not brushing you off. I've just been through this "grinder" and am well aware of the likely outcome. I'm not that interested in trying to convince you against its use because I really DO understand the futility of that.
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