Tumbleweed

How does smoking pot ruin anyones lives? You are useing your personal view as a model for everyone. It's not that simple.

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sglaine

Good point Tumbleweed.. Pot has not ruin lives. But Booze sure has on the other hand.

Tumbleweed

I've been looking at a few studies since I started this discussion. I can't find where pot alone ruins lives in general. There are always the exceptions as there is with any drug.

A lot of studies were based on mice. They used a lot of terms like some,maybe,could,might etc. but they were hard to pin down on exacts.

The government studies were even worse.

There are side effects, as with any drug.But given the big picture on an average nothing suggested pot, used seperately from other drugs has ruined a vast number of lives.

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Slartibartfas

My opinion about it?

Marijuana is not dangerous. for grown ups. It does not make you physically addicted like regular drugs like nicotine and alcohol do. But for teenager I have read that its not unproblematic, as it slows down the development of the kids. But I guess also only if consumed in larger quantities.

Does it has to be legalized now? Hm, I would not oppose it, but to be honest I don't care that much. Just when it comes to people with chronicle pain problems and stuff like that. Why shouldn't they be allowed to smoke if it helps them? I mean pain killers are not really better, and in contrast to Marijuana they make addicted.

FRYandBENDER

I smoked a lot of pot my senior year in college and had much better grades than before I started, infact, I made the dean's list. BUT, once I had my school work done, all I wanted to do was stay home and hang out with my friends. I didn't really like going out when I was high, so I just didn't go out, unless it was to do some camping or hiking or something. Now a days I'm clean, I don't have time for it, but I would like to see it legalized so that if I did want to do it, on the weekend or something, I could just go to the store and not have to feel like a fucking criminal. Plus, as Thane has said, alcohol is legal and that shit is more dangerous by far, especially when you look at drunk driving.


Plus, I would like to smoke pot and for once not have that paranoid feeling.

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Slartibartfas

WRT driving. In Austria its illegal to drive when you have more than 0,5 promille Alcohol in your blood. Its not illegal to consume here Marijuana, (producing and dealing is) but if they catch you driving while being high, its handled as if you would be drunk. And thats legimitated, as it also slows down your reactions significantly.

Tumbleweed

Facts and myths of pot.

Drug Policy Alliance: Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts

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FRYandBENDER

Yeah, the two times I was dumb enough to actually drive while I was high..... well, lets just say my life flashed before my eyes. I didn't have an accident, but it was close enough to make me not want to do it again.

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Scruff

Inhalation of marijuana smoke has the same negative effects that cigarette smoke does. In fact, since your puffs are longer it does more damage. However, one typically smokes less joints in a given amount of time than cigarettes, so this effect is somewhat mitigated. It does also cause memory damage and all the drawbacks that come with any mind altering substance. One definite negative effect is inadvertant exposure to other drugs which the pot is laced with due to lack of regulation.

Typically if only one side of an argument is being presented, that side is accepted (obviously), but this paragraph is basically pointless since that's...obvious.

Just as many as there are for any addictive substance since most don't specify.

You'd be surprised how many people advertise or pretend they smoke pot because it's "cool".

Scruff

People under the effect of pot are lethargic and not very productive (and if they are trying to be productive it's sub-par work which they think is stellar). When they're not under the influence there is still some damaging effects which obviously subtract from productivity.