Well it is not censorship to take off vulgar programs on national TV stations. Look how easily people just threw out the word "censorship" in this topic. It is pathetic. The 1st Amendment only applies to government abridging freedom of speech. A private company can shut you up ASAP if they want to. Now of course the way we read things today, that is no longer the case. But that is only due to the inability of the US to educate itself

I dont watch much TV anymore b/c of the vulgar content. Sex and language are thrown into movies simply to fill in time and to saturate the pedophile needs our people today. My kids dont watch anything with cuss words or sex in it. I wont allow it. Which means they dont get to watch much TV, which is a good thing anyways. I dont let them play hours of video games either. I kick them outside to play unlike most parents who will let them do anything to just "keep them out of our hair for awhile".

The 1st Amendment applies only to government encroachment upon its citizenry, it says nothing about private companies taking off bad entertainment during family hour TV.

Everytime I turn on the TV during the week, which use to be family hour around 7PM, you could get a funny show, that wasn't political propaganda for gays or some other political movement. Now that is all it is. And it ain't worth a minute of viewership. Probably why I have cut my cable completely. It isn't worth the money you spend on it anymore.

Well I question the person, who walks around throwing out expletives in a conversation. I had a buddy whose girlfriend had to use the f word in every sentence, or use some sexual term to describe something she was talking about and I couldn't for the life of me, figure out what she was saying or the point she was trying to make. After the 3rd try I just said forget it.

Are you advocating then, letting kids walk around using the f word to talk to their moms and dads?

Since when did it become taboo, to teach your kid manners, and for an adult to speak like an adult?

Of course it is censorship. I don't want to watch silly goody-two-shoes programs like 7th heaven and touched by an angel, they're pathetic, and most kids think they are too. Censorship is wrong, we should self-censor. If you find something too rough for your taste, change the channel, I do when the explicit movies are on late at night.

And you believe they don't watch them at their friends' homes. TV is not the worst thing they can do. It is, in fact very good for children with ADD and ADHD as are video games. There is nothing like TV and video games to get a child to learn how to concentrate. I know because I had three of them with concentration problems. If you watch tv with your kids and not leave it as a babysitter, it is a wonderful way to teach them good values. You can point out that you don't approve of the language but that you understand that it is in society and people use it but they you don't want them to use it.

Do you indoctrinate your children with anti-gay propaganda. Do you also tell them that left-handed people are wrong too. Like Bill Clinton. 40 years ago when I was being taught by nuns, they used to tie left-handed children's hands behind their backs to make them use their right. The only thing they succeeded in doing was to make them stutter, because left or right handedness is connected with the speech centre interfere with the one, you mess up the other. Being gay is not a politic issue, it is a matter of otherwise wiring, nothing the person can do to change it so railing against it is not going to make it go away anymore than the nuns could make the left-handed kids learn to write 'right'. If you don't believe me look it up on a psychology website. Homosexuality used to be classified on the DSM classification for mental disorders - it was removed years ago when the fourth list was drawn up - so google DSM IV and see what it says about homosexuality, it's not something that can be cured anymore than left-handedness can.

I should try to stay objective but when I see nonsense like 'propaganda for gays' i see red.

WHo said you had to watch 7th Heaven?



No they dont...lol. Did I just read that TV and video games were good for ADD? It is proven that watching TV is bad for you. I dont watch adult programming with my kids sorry. I am more of a parent then that.



And here comes the PC crap! "anti-gay" propaganda? What does that mean?

It is propaganda for gays. Before the gay rights movement there were mayb e a couple of shows that would even have a gay character on it. Now? On every channel and major show, there is a major gay character. Hollywood uses political propaganda all the time. The onyl nonsense I see is someone justifying raising their kids with bad habits and bad manners.

Awesome. Looks like this thread is going to quickly deteriorate into a parenting-skills bashing thread.
Good thing I don't have kids. Let's try to steer clear of criticizing the parenting-skills of people you don't know, shall we?

I'll be keeping an eye on all of you...... <.< >.>

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Depends on what you consider "vulgar" and what you consider "censorship."

Too many people believe that everything a broadcasting company should be all about them and no one else. If a fundamentalist Christian says witchcraft and God-like powers is "vulgar" and shouldn't be displayed, then you'd have to cancel a whole host of shows on television that make profits for the broadcasting companies.

It's all about dollars and ratings--not censorship or propaganda.

You mean, that it's only do the inability of SOME in the US to educate itself? Or were you talking about yourself here as well? (I made the same mistake in another thread, so I know how easily one can mess up with this )

But overall, if you're calling for a broadcasting company to meet your druthers, rather than those of its viewing audience--it is indeed censorship.

Child pornography is a federal crime. If this is what is airing on your television, I wouldn't be watching it either. You should report any instances that you see. Just switching off the tube doesn't protect the innocents being exploited.

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And kicking them loose into the neighborhood with no parental supervision is a not just keeping them "out of your hair awhile" either?

I'm happy to report that my 14yr.old and his friends often spend time at my house in our rec room playing video games during the weekends. I prefer it to him running wild in the community getting into God knows what somewhere else.

Which I stated above only happens if the ratings decline and there's a loss of advertising dollars. People are tuning into these programs you don't like, so saying the TV stations shoud remove them is an attempt to censor what others are watching. Like it was suggested before--just change the channel--or pop in a video, or do what you're doing now--don't watch. But don't complain that the free market isn't giving you what you want

Well, maybe you're not switching to the right channel? One of our favorites is AFV. I can't think of any propaganda in that show--unless you want to construe some sort of "stupid people tricks"

Others we enjoy: Heroes, Supernatural, Lost. We also tune into shows like "Are you Smarter Than A Fifth Grader", "American Idol" and it's spin off "American Inventor" etc. That's all I can think of right now.

That's a shame, there's some good, educational shows on the Discovery channel and Discovery for kids is awesome. We recently finished watching the "earth" series narrated by Sigorney (sp?) Weaver on National Geographic. "Blue Planet" was another the kids loved.

LOL There's some humorous irony in those two statements.


Is that a non-sequitor? How do the products originating in a certain geographical location suddenly mean parents are justifying anything--let alone raising their kids with bad habits or manners?

Or do you mean:

Like what they did with Elvis and his "vulgar" hip-gyrating style of dance. Or what they said about the "vulgarity" of Lucy and Ricky sleeping in the same bed.

I have a rather over-educated, well-balanced tv addict, video game playing family of which I am very proud.

Excellent! This is exactly what I'm striving to do with my kids. We read together (my eldest and I are on the second book in the Maximum Ride series by Patterson), we watch movies together (though, like I'm sure you did, the more "scary" ones are reserved for when they younger ones are asleep), we eat together, play together--the very same thing.

We too have a wide variety of interests and are avid collectors of all things "fun"--books, DVD's, board games, video games, etc. My kids laugh at me when I get really into one of our video games and end up twisting all over the place on the sofa to keep my "video car" on the "videol road." It's become a running joke in the house

Great post!

Thank you - I am proud of you keep it up.
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