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Old 08-16-2007, 12:50 PM
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Why are libraries homeless shelters?

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A homeless man was arrested this week at the downtown Central Library after allegedly masturbating in a back aisle and then pulling a knife on a librarian who was trying to escort him out of the building.

A security guard used a Taser on the man, who was arrested by police and charged with multiple offenses, from lascivious conduct to aggravated battery.

No one, luckily, was injured or killed in the incident.

But it's an ugly reminder of a community problem hidden in plain sight.

On any given day, you'll find a group of homeless regulars at the Central Library, ensconced at tables or slouched in chairs.

Most of the time, they cause no problems. Sometimes, though, they ruffle the serene surface of public life.

By talking loudly. Bothering other patrons.

Smelling bad.

Their presence typically arouses annoyance in Wichitans, or revulsion.

What we should feel is shame.

Recently I read a provocative essay by Chip Ward, former assistant director of the Salt Lake City public library system.

He wrote about this nation's dirty little secret: How our libraries have become de facto daytime shelters for the homeless -- and librarians have become de facto social workers.

All because of our nation's ongoing failure to address the problems facing the homeless.

Ward wrote about the daily challenges librarians face in dealing with "street people," the chronically homeless who, he points out, usually are suffering from a mental illness or drug or alcohol addiction, or both.

Social agencies and shelters are often overwhelmed, underfunded and unavailable during the day.

"So, like it or not, we are ushered into the ranks of auxiliary social workers with no resources whatsoever."

Librarians often do make a difference, though, just by treating the homeless with respect and caring attention.

Library director Cynthia Berner-Harris, when I talked to her a while back on this subject, told me the staff tries hard to treat homeless patrons with sensitivity and dignity, as they would any other customer.

By and large, there are no problems. You might find the homeless playing chess or reading magazines, she said.

Still, some of the homeless have substance abuse problems.

"We're not necessarily trained to deal with that," Berner-Harris told me. "Sometimes it's a struggle for us."

Perhaps the biggest challenge is "keeping these folks awake."

They can't sleep in the library, because staff need to know they aren't suffering a health problem.

In Wichita, librarians have received training in homeless issues. And the library has a "terrific relationship," she said, with several service agencies.

But Ward wrote that no matter how caring and helpful librarians are, sometimes they face no good options -- and "in the end, we just call the cops."

That's what happened the other day at the library. I'm not sure about the specific case of this 58-year-old homeless man -- whether he suffers from a mental illness or other health problem.

But the incident highlights how the homeless problem, left unaddressed, often becomes criminalized.

It's a symptom of neglect and failure on our part.

"When the mentally ill whom we have thrown onto the streets haunt our public places, their presence tells us something important about the state of our union, our national character, our priorities, and our capacity to care for one another," Ward argued in his essay.

"What do you think about a culture that abandons suffering people and expects them to fend for themselves on the street, then criminalizes them for expressing the symptoms of illnesses they cannot control?"

Wichita, which prides itself on its family friendliness, isn't a very friendly place to the homeless and sick living on our streets.

It's a blind spot in our moral vision.

After more than a decade of "temporary" emergency shelters, city leaders have yet to come up with a comprehensive plan for helping these lost souls.

The homeless task force appointed last year is still holding meetings.

Where is the urgency?

Homeless people, Berner-Harris stressed, have a right to use the library, just like other citizens.

Some of them, though, are struggling with serious mental illness and addictions, and the library doesn't have the resources to help them.

When they're sick, they don't belong in the library, or a jail cell. They belong in treatment.

Until we provide better services and real homes for them, they'll continue to haunt our public places.

To our shame.
The public library in downtown ....... is a homeless shelter. It reeks of urine, vomit, and body odor. They are a waste of taxpayer money in the internet age, and an extremely expensive way to warehouse bums.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:39 PM
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The public library in downtown ....... is a homeless shelter. It reeks of urine, vomit, and body odor. They are a waste of taxpayer money in the internet age, and an extremely expensive way to warehouse bums.
Wait... are you talking about homeless people being a "waste of taxpayer money"? Or libraries?
Either way I think you need to reread this article since it was to point out that we need to do something to help lower the number of homeless and/or provide better/more shelters for them to live... did... did you pick that up?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:55 PM
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Where do I insult homeless people?

Stop jumping to conclusions, Rodog. I simply state fact.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:55 PM
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What are you proposing, superdude?

That we deny American citizens access to public buildings because they might vomit, urinate or smell bad?

Have you been around toddlers in diapers? Should we deny children access to libraries and the community programs conducted by these venerable institutions because they are dependent, tend to puke, urinate and smell bad as well?

Since when does protecting your sense of smell take precedence over the freedoms of American citizens? Ever ride mass transit? Should we eliminate that as well simply because it doesn't appeal to your nose?

I think this probably one of the most strange arguments for the restriction of freedom I've ever read.
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It might be cool to be able to go to the library and snack on some hot soup while you read. I say let 'em in.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:01 PM
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It might be cool to be able to go to the library and snack on some hot soup while you read. I say let 'em in.
Wrong. Libraries are not homeless shelters.

The result you mention above would be that the library is no longer used for its established purpose and is turned over to the homeless instead. They might as well remove the book shelves and replace them with cots.

If they have an intent and purpose to actually use the library, fine. However, most of the time, very little of them are actually "using" its resources the way its meant to be used.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:22 PM
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The public library in downtown ....... is a homeless shelter. It reeks of urine, vomit, and body odor. They are a waste of taxpayer money in the internet age, and an extremely expensive way to warehouse bums.
Until you can get everything on the internet that you can get at a brick and mortar library, libraries are essential.

That said, I think there should be some way to keep bums from camping out in the library.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:56 PM
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Thought you should know that before you insult them because none of them are homeless because they want to be and a good deal are homeless because of the mental ailments they developed in the pointless war in Veitnam. There will be homeless soldiers from this war as well.
Only use hard chairs and they will go elsewhere.
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Wrong. Libraries are not homeless shelters.

The result you mention above would be that the library is no longer used for its established purpose and is turned over to the homeless instead. They might as well remove the book shelves and replace them with cots.

If they have an intent and purpose to actually use the library, fine. However, most of the time, very little of them are actually "using" its resources the way its meant to be used.
I was being pretty sarcastic. I guess I should have used a .
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Why do you even care, superdude? You obviously don't patronize your libraries as you stated; "They are a waste of taxpayer money in the internet age."

Why not let those who DO use the library, to play chess, or to read a newspaper, or just to get some peace and quiet, use them if they wish? What does it matter to you?

Not sure what your beef is, especially since you never answered my earlier questions.
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