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06-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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Captain Trips? That's a new one on me. But I haven't been there since the winter.
You're a conservatives? I haven't been able to figure out your views frrom your posts.
I suppose that's good - keep them guessing....
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Hmmm..
Do you remember a guy named "Thane" ?
That used to be me too. Here AND there.
Anyways, I'm somewhat conservative. Mostly independant. I'm ok with the liberalism of 40 - 50 years ago inits original intent, but todays brand is beyond anything that I can support or agree with wholeheartedly.
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06-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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Hmmm..
Do you remember a guy named "Thane" ?
That used to be me too. Here AND there.
Anyways, I'm somewhat conservative. Mostly independant. I'm ok with the liberalism of 40 - 50 years ago inits original intent, but todays brand is beyond anything that I can support or agree with wholeheartedly.
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Thane! Of course. Well, good to see you. Now it all makes sense...
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06-20-2007, 01:11 PM
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Thane! Of course. Well, good to see you. Now it all makes sense...
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I don't know. There were some Tims I went round-n-round with over there LOL
Yeah, I just decided to change my username along with my methods in a few, minor ways.
I think I'm easier to handle LOL
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06-20-2007, 01:18 PM
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In answer to your question.
Any student going to school will be exposed to and possibly taught religion and evolution befor they turn 12 yrs old at least that's the way it is where I come from.
So why not teach a proper form of Religion and a proper form of evolution.
Cause let's face facts some unsavory characters are using Religion as a form of making money and other things.I'm sure you've heard of Jim Jones and drink the kool aid {laced with syonide}
And evolutionist are not all upstanding citizens,some of them use the theory of evolution to make money and other things I sure you've heard of the mass suicide with the outfits and purple tennis shoes {aid to have been preparing to meet alein life forms}aka Sceintology, aka evolution.
It is true Students don't vote now, but a few when they turn voting age will.
Then their right to choose will be in their hands.
At least where I come from.
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I disagree.
Its entirely meaningless what some potheads try to do with the evolution theory. If its making money, pushing people into suicide. Yes, its a problem of society, its bad its whatever you want, but it says exactly zero about the theory of evolution or its validity. As the Nazis actions did not change anything change about its validity.
Evolution is the uncontested central theory of biology. I have yet to hear of any serious biologist without a nonscientific agenda who puts the evolution theory as a whole in question. Of course evolution is no fact, NO scientific theory is fact. Thats how science works.
I still lack to see entirely what biology has to do with religion. Its like saying Astrology has something to do with Astronomy. And that as so many believe in Astrology pupils should have the right to hear both "theories" not just the one sided astronomic perspective....
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06-20-2007, 01:22 PM
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I don't know. There were some Tims I went round-n-round with over there LOL
Yeah, I just decided to change my username along with my methods in a few, minor ways.
I think I'm easier to handle LOL
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There were two Tims on USPOL: one left of center and one right of center. The left one has a longer name. I'm the other. I don't remember going "round and round" with you - but I do remember your responses to OTHER posters.... 
I can see the new methods working. 
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06-20-2007, 02:11 PM
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There were two Tims on USPOL: one left of center and one right of center. The left one has a longer name.
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Yeah, ...j219 or something was his names extension I think. You're probably right.
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I'm the other. I don't remember going "round and round" with you - but I do remember your responses to OTHER posters.... 
I can see the new methods working. 
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I'm still a hard ass mind you. Just not as reactive to stuff LOL
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06-20-2007, 02:39 PM
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I disagree.
Its entirely meaningless what some potheads try to do with the evolution theory. If its making money, pushing people into suicide. Yes, its a problem of society, its bad its whatever you want, but it says exactly zero about the theory of evolution or its validity. As the Nazis actions did not change anything change about its validity.
Evolution is the uncontested central theory of biology. I have yet to hear of any serious biologist without a nonscientific agenda who puts the evolution theory as a whole in question. Of course evolution is no fact, NO scientific theory is fact. Thats how science works.
I still lack to see entirely what biology has to do with religion. Its like saying Astrology has something to do with Astronomy. And that as so many believe in Astrology pupils should have the right to hear both "theories" not just the one sided astronomic perspective....
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Remember the old saying, "I THINK THERFORE I AM", well to say humans have not evolved, and are evolving as we speak would be ludicris.
Do humans not strive to,and do better with each generation, if that is not evolution what is?
As for religion true it is based on faith in a creator,or shall we say a desiener of how to start things off, myself I beleive in God, to some people this is silly.
But tell me how is it differant than beleiveing in an explosion ,that nobody knows how big, nobody knows where, and nobody knows why, and to put the nail in the coffin nobody knows what products were used to set off this "BIG BANG"
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06-20-2007, 06:34 PM
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Remember the old saying, "I THINK THERFORE I AM", well to say humans have not evolved, and are evolving as we speak would be ludicris.
Do humans not strive to,and do better with each generation, if that is not evolution what is?
As for religion true it is based on faith in a creator,or shall we say a desiener of how to start things off, myself I beleive in God, to some people this is silly.
But tell me how is it differant than beleiveing in an explosion ,that nobody knows how big, nobody knows where, and nobody knows why, and to put the nail in the coffin nobody knows what products were used to set off this "BIG BANG"
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The difference between the BIG BANG and GOD?
The former is a controversial scientific theory that currently explains best the scientific datas collected, while the latter is a totally unscientific (in the neutral sense of the word) concept of belief.
We know quite a bit already about our universe I would say. Everything we found currently points towards an expanding universe, we see back until a very early stage of the universe as well. We can watch actually how the universe looked like billions of years ago.
We can't see anything really near of the supposed Big Bang yet, but we are approaching the supposed date increasingly further.
The Big Bang theory has a few, lets say critical points, like the inflationary expansion I would say.
The given case that the Big Bang theory is really correct which is lets say not unlikely, its simply impossible to say what was before. You can speculate and guess (religions will love it, as thats their domain), but I doubt you will find any scientific means to research that. Not with the technology we know today.
Enough differences, or shall I continue?
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06-20-2007, 06:48 PM
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-------------------------- nobody knows what products were used to set off this "BIG BANG"
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Yes, studying what is theorized about the "big bang" sometimes can lead one to think of the "let there be light" phrase in the book of genesis LOL
For all the matter in this universe to be traveling out so fast and far, it's been said that initially it came from .... nowhere. From a size so small and powerful that it originated from nothing.
Then there's the theory of the static universe.
What's strange is the more we KNOW, the more we know we DON'T know.
But there are those of us who view science as a kind of "new faith".
Since we can't find, measure or speak to anyone who will explain to us why it's all HERE.
"It just IS, for NOW. Science will explain EVERYTHING in time."
Talk about a religious like faith.
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06-21-2007, 01:22 AM
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Christanity is very quickly becoming "politicly(hope I spelled that right)incorrect,as Tim said in his post,its more about destroying it. Theres no such thing as Freedom of Religion anymore,unless you're willing to pratice it behind closed doors.
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