I just think the whole "race" issue is distracting and meaningless.

I mean really.

What is a "white people" ? What is a "black people ? Or any other people with a slightly different skin tone ?

I've met a-holes of every color and very good people of every color. The only friend I've made where I work is a "black people".

I treat him no differently than I do any of my other friends.

Anywho, I think a LOT of the so called "race gap" has to do with many other things than the color of this or that persons skin.

Sure, there are racists. There always WILL be racists.

Fuck 'em, they're in a serious minority. Lets not make them into a larger "power" than they really ARE. That's what sharkton and hijackson do and I have no tolerance for the shit they try to brainwash people with.

Personally, I don't know what the answer is. I think it would probably be a good idea for everyone to listen though. Maybe conservatives should listen to Democrats who have something to say about more funding for schools in the ghetto. Maybe liberals should listen to what conservatives have to say about personal responsibility. It's all true in the case of the African-American community.


WEB

Maybe "they" who promote themselves as victims of slavery and want reparations are not taken seriously because Americans don't want to take on the guilt that the Sharpton's and Jackson's of the world want to lay on them for something that took place long before they were ever born. Perhaps they don't won't to take them seriously when the voice of the black and hispanic people come out of the ghettos while they proclaim their hatred for whites and the fact that whites are the "devil". There is no one that's more racist then blacks from urban centers because they're taught to hate from birth. If you wish to call me a racist, so be it. Most white don't even give race a passing thought. They're just trying to get by, day by day and live somewhat peacefully.

Why isn't anyone reacting when someone decides to type "black people are victims and want reparations"? Or, "there's no one more racist than blacks in urban centers."?

What happens when black people are featured in blanket statements? What will anyone do?

I'm just waiting to see if someone else will speak up and correct these latest "blanket statements" about black people.

So be it. The silence is deafening. The talks go on, though.

I will return with more substantial answers to earlier questions.

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I think the bold comment is pretty racist. What is your factual basis for such a comment?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's because the comments are less then an hour old.

You and I both know why. Again, SCRIBBLER'S deal was a false front. Nothing but an excuse used to try to cut the conversation short and project his/her own feelings. And, as I already pointed out, SCRIBBLER was really frontin' because he/she used the same type of blanket statement he/she wanted to dig you for.

• "Whites DO take non-whites seriously..."
• "I'm sure White people use those terms when speaking to Black people all the time."

So, once again, you have the answer to your question. Now as far as the reactions to blanket statements...

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• Jesse and Al are race pimps that make their money by telling black people that they can not achieve - FRYandBENDER
  
• It's easy to blame the White man, or the white establisment for all the problems of Blacks - SCRIBBLER

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The silence is deafening.
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Those dots are hard to connect either. But let's take a look at the second statement. Now, I challenge anybody who has ever thought or verbalized this oft regurgitated garabage to do one thing:

LIST ALL THE "PROBLEM OF BLACKS" and show how the idea that holds true for whatever significant portion, plurality or majority of Black people who are believed to have "blamed the White man."

Since people like to scapegoat Jesse and Al, use them. Go down the list of ALL THE "PROBLEMS OF BLACKS" that they have ever spoken about and show how they, the so-called "race hustlers" do, in fact, "blame" ALL THE "PROBLEMS OF BLACKS" on the "White man."

I tell you what... List the top 10 "problems of Blacks" then show how Jesse and Al "blame the White man" for all of them and don't hold Blacks responsible in any way for any of those top 10 problems you list.

SCRIBBLER? FRYandBENDER? Anyone of ya'll who want to scapegoat Jesse and Al.

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And speaking of holding or not holding Blacks responsible... @ WEB

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What's wrong the way you tilted your head to pretend like you read what I said when you obviously didn't or just thought you can *IF* it to death instead of dealing with what I actually said.

LEARN HOW TO READ!!!!

And I quote:
"Black people today are not "responsible" for the social/racial disparities historical WHITE SUPREMACY, racism and discrimination created"

What part of that don't you understand, WEB?
What part of the CONTEXT of my remarks did you miss?

What part of "not responsible for [what] historical WHITE SUPREMACY, racism and discrimination CREATED" don't you understand?

QUESTIONS:
1] What do you call yourself objecting to?
2] Why did you fabricate your response (i.e. just make that junk up) with no regard for clause re: what WHITE SUPREMACY et al CREATED?


What I said was very specific and it was stated in a SPECIFIC CONTEXT. Explain why your remark was not made in that same context (below).

SCRIBBLER made the first statement and my remarks were clearly made in that "so-called "white responsibility" for past sins" context that SCRIBBLER spoke in. So exactly which part of that did you not understand?


And there was and never will be an *IF* to what I said. What I said was clear and put in the clear CONTEXT I just reposted for you. Exactly what caused you not to see what was plainly presented right before your eyes, WEB?


So, seeing as how you slipped up and assumed the wrong thing, let's correct your statement:

LOL

Oh man. That's rich. Dude, try a little less hard to manipulate language, and try to actually just discuss the issue. I mean, wow, you just put all of your effort into controlling the language of the debate, rather than just arguing your point.

I will just put it simply. I found your attitude of dismissing Scribbler and this entire thread as arrogant. You have a grand total of three posts. You don't know enough about this forum to be dismissive, and if you did approach this forum without sticking to whatever pre-conceptions you may have, then you wouldn't approach it with an arrogant or dismissive attitude.

I'll say that I think that some of your comments have some intelligence to them, though how much of that you can apply in a civil manner still remains to be seen.


WEB

That's bullshit. Scribbler does not front, ok? Scribbler said what he thought. But don't worry, you probably won't be hearing too much from Scribbler anymore. He's kind of fedup with your remarks and decided to leave the forum. Now, here's the deal, Scribbler is gone, fedup with the tone of this conversation. Now I will nicely ask you and anyone else not to continue to talk about Scribbler. Let us move on and discuss the issue.

To be honest with you, your above quote is grammatically flawed and is a sentence fragment. I really don't understand what the question is asking. Could you re-phrase it?

I think that Al and Jesse bashing are time-honored traditions for many people (blacks included) though I do think your challenge for people to substantiate it is a great question.


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