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01-27-2007, 05:32 AM
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Marine Commits Suicide
This is a sad story and reminds me of my time in the darkness.
At first, Jonathan Schulze tried to live with the nightmares and the grief he brought home from Iraq. He was a tough kid from central Minnesota, and more than that, a U.S. Marine to the core.
Yet his moods when he returned home told another story. He sobbed on his parents' couch as he told them how fellow Marines had died, and how he, a machine gunner, had killed the enemy. In his sleep, he screamed the names of dead comrades. He had visited a psychiatrist at the VA hospital in Minneapolis
This Marine's death came after he served in Iraq
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As with most of our recent wars, not wenough is being done to help those who suffer from the agony of war.
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01-27-2007, 07:40 AM
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Oh Dear God ! This hits too close to home. My brother's best friend came back from Viet Nam, and for years we kept in touch with Christmas cards, letters, birthday cards, the dissolution of his marriage, etc. 9 years ago the letters I sent him were returned to me with a post office stamp, undeliverable mail. I later discovered that he had committed suicide because my brother did not come back from Nam, but he did. These young people see things in war that we can't even imagine.
My heart and prayers go out to his family, and those who were closest yo this young man.
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01-27-2007, 08:03 AM
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As a Viet Vet I can sympathize with his plight and the battles he must have fought with himself. We "Bush Bunnies " in Vietnam had a saying, "the lucky ones died in Vietnam". And if you lived thru the whole obscenity you would never be the same.
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01-27-2007, 08:39 AM
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OMG; please accept my apologies if I said something that brought back memories, you would sooner forget. I am so sorry.
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I submit to you that if a man hasn't discovered something he will die for, he isn't fit to live.
Martin Luther King Jr., Speech in Detroit, June 23, 1963
Saving a life is oh, so sweet - Me
http://www.vatf1.org/about.cfm
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01-28-2007, 02:15 PM
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that is fucked up
damn his chain of command for not helping
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01-30-2007, 08:35 AM
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Is there really much that can be done? I am not a soldier (never have been and if I can help it, never will be) but I would imagine that some people simply snap and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. The human brain, sometimes, can only take so much trauma. I would think that even the best psychiatrist can't help everyone recover....
Sometimes, I think back to the history stories of those men who fought in battles with swords and shields and bows and arrows... and I wonder... what was that like? What kind of traumatizing nightmares and flashbacks did those men have? How many of them took their own lives? You don't really learn about it.
It's sad to hear of these people coming back from war and committing suicide after having survived those horrors. I know many, many people in the armed forces (my father is currently in the National Guard, my mother was in the past, two of my cousins have married into the Navy and the Army, and last year I did lose a friend in Iraq who had been there for one month before he was blown up, etc.) and I hope that none of them come back over here and feel the need to end their lives because of what they saw, did, or saw others do.
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01-30-2007, 07:53 PM
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There is research into medication that prevents the brain from permanently imprinting a horrific event into a traumatic memory. I have read about it in the magazine The Scientific American Mind.
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