Lessons in lying form the Catholic Church? The Church does not Lie.

No you are right France is kind of a secular country. I was just trying to point out the irony of it. Policies are not necessarily based upon religion, but religious beliefs still play an important role here. Although there is separation of Church and State, France is still a Catholic country whatsoever. It's clearly obvious when it has to deal with issues like abortion (whose legitimacy was voted in 1975 due to a very brave woman called Simone Veil despite popular contempt)... Hopefully there are no more anti-semitic policies here (I think Napoleon tried to put an end to them in Europe two centuries ago) but one can feel that French for the most part still have an irrational anti-semitic feeling which is much greater than what you can hear in the USA you can trust me.

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"History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake" - Ulysses, James Joyce.

You're right the Church does not lie; but the people who represent it do.

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"History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake" - Ulysses, James Joyce.

Having lived in france I know it. "Meilleur Hitler Que Blum" perhaps you would translate!

Well I don't think I need to translate it for you as you seem to know French fairly well enough. I don't agree however: Leon Blum was a great man IMHO, so much better than that sad f*ck you named first.

Anyway since you seem to know Serbo-croatian language pretty well too, and since I don't, I'd like to ask you a favor. Someone left me a message I think but I'm not sure it was really addressed to me since I can't understand it. Would you be kind enough to translate it for me? Here it is:

"Majmune usrani, odlicno ti razumes srpski, idi prvo i nauci kako se brise dupe papirom, polumozgu brdjanski, jebacemo Vas u usta kao i do sada, nece Vam pomoci ni tri Amerike"

Thanks anyways.

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"History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake" - Ulysses, James Joyce.

Do you wish to discuss the representative of the church, starting with the witch "mother" teresa or maybe Marchinkus and john paul 11, or the calvi/masonic connections, go back further if you want to the 1933 treaty between hitler and rome, just a few to start with!

Lying the church wrote the book!

Well wouldn’t be too disappointed George Berkely wouldn’t you translate it for I have reasons to believe it is just another one of those stupid sentimentalist, serbo-nationalist comments we find lately on the Internet; but was it an exception and the sign Serbs might make a reasonable choice for the coming election (i.e. not base their votes upon religious beliefs but more upon say earthly matters maybe western ones) then it would have been good news: good news maybe that most Americans will do just the same and say don’t take care too much about what Reverend Wright says because he’s just Reverend Wright alrite… Just to be clear I’m not pulling for Obama if you haven’t noticed yet I’m pulling for Bush and recalling you call him Dubya makes sense since you people sure say he’s a newby ya sure know what I mean you sound like you would enjoy Bush-bashing and French-bashing how about Texan-bashing or what now God-bashing

EDIT: Wait it seems like you are pulling for Manchester sir how about Liverpool-bashing I'm sure you hate Arsenal

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Darling I missed your post I am sorry, my grasp of Serbian and Croatian is limited, my wife is teaching me (she speak 7 languages) her mother is Serbian her Father Croatian.

The insult someone sent you is standard, monkeys, shit, america,your mother ect, if you want to respond in Serbian "Jebem ti seljaku mater u stopala kojima gupus gazi" is quite inventive!

As to who you are "pulling" I believe in Democracy so you can "pull" who you want!

As to Dubya what are his approval ratings?

Dubya bashing yes French bashing no (althought the freedom fries rhetoric comming out of the US some time ago did amuse me) I learned a huge amount when I lived in Paris and in Frejus!

When the French rejected American Nuclear weapons, and retained there independence in that field, they had my respect, not about the weapons but about them standing up to a bully,as they did re Iraq!

Football I live in an area called Greater Manchester, but I am a Scouser, so I support Liverpool FC, as to Arsenal I like them, its a north London Jewish thing,as a relative by marriage made millions in the last two years by selling his shares to some gentlemen from the east.

I am now more interested in Croatian football, my nephew has been approached by both Arsenal and Man U and last summer spent time with Juventus, but until he gets international status he cannot be signed by E U clubs.

I like Tennis and find it fantastic that small nations can produce so many "winners"

I am allways amazed the conclusions people jump to, to support their agenda's

If I may ask, where do you live and why?

I love the cookie with the brown tip, a version of "langue de chat" you too?

double post

No please don't take it personal our motivations, homes, agendas, conclusions at least souldn't have any relevance to the issue. I'm not about to respond in a language I don't understand especially if it's insulting I should have just supposed that it's not addressed to me for good on the web it's mostly English or at least here should be. Sorry if you had the impression I brought those matters up in the discussion. As to President Bush yeah his approval ratings are often questioned but if one listens long enough one might hear that it's not only President Bush's record of foreign or whatever policies but all of America's history of foreign or whatever policies that is questioned. So let's see. Where do most of those critics come from in the first place? Some harsh ones can be heard across the atlantic from countries whose history of foreign policies led to what hummm World War 1&2 hummm next question! If you want to know I am personally happy with the way things are going right now in the world I'm not saying all is well but you know...

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"History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake" - Ulysses, James Joyce.