I agree with what you said in the other post, but right here as you point out there plenty of effectively "white only" organizations and such, they just don't have the label and that's the only thing that really separates them from their black and hispanic counterparts.

I also have another example of how, as a white person, i've been discriminated against. During my second period class my the teacher reads out the accouncements (events and programs and what not) and in the announcements there was a program that was geared to show teenagers how to get involved in politics and join a program in that general area, well wanting to get into politics I read the paper about it, and it turned out the program was only for latino students. My dreams were crushed before they started.

yeah, the names may be the biggest difference, and therefore no big deal. they're just symbolic of the difference in what's considered acceptable behavior. whites are held to much higher standards than blacks, and i think that's counterproductive. if true equality is what we're after, then everyone should have to play by the same political correctness rules.

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"Diamond" Joe Quimby

The bottom line is that both of the major minority groups feel entitled to special treatment, but feel no need to prove worthiness as human beings for it. They rely on their ethnic or racial makeup to get preference, but scream if anyone says it's so.

Again, respect is earned by actions. Whiners get none.

What special treatment exactly?

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Yeah, they do. If a white person calls a minority a "name" for God sake, it's a racial hate crime, but it's perfectly O.K. for minorities to call whites anything they want, and nothing is done. That my dear, is preferential.

I think you are way overgeneralizing here. Way. If I am in my office and I walk up to an Asian person and say "Hey, chink!" you think I won't be fired because I have darker skin? If I said to a coworker, "How you doing, honkey?" (which doesn't have anywhere NEAR the same connotation as 'nigger' or 'gook' or 'kike', by the way) you think I would be able to get away with that? No.

There is a difference between a majority group (who, at one point in time has exercised some form of major discrimination and/or violence against EVERY OTHER minority group in the area) calling minorities derogatory names and minority groups calling majority groups names. Neither side should do it. But there is a difference. Dehumanizing through name-calling is a way to exercise authority and superiority over a group of people. Whites in this country have most of the control and have had it since this countries inception. Minorities do not. A LOT more goes along with words like "nigger" and "gook" (think violence and oppression) than goes along with words like "cracker" and "honkey" (think... what do those words even mean? and could you tell me where they came from without looking it up on the internet right now? cuz i could tell you where the words used against whites came from).

In the end, the solution is not for minorities to use "slurs" against whites. But, #1. claiming that non-white people can get away with racism is a laugh and, #2. claiming that "slurs" directed towards whites carry the same weight as slurs directed towards non-whites is also ridiculous. The history of words is important and the word "nigger" is a lot more violent, vicious, and intentionally hurtful than the word "honkey" ever could be. When a white person calls a black person a "nigger" they are essentially saying what Richards said all those months ago,... that the black person is not worthy of speaking to that white person and is equal to the worth of a slave... perhaps they may even believe that the black person should be a slave and dream of "better days" when black people didn't even have the 'privilege' of speaking to whites. That is where the word comes from and, even though black people have tried (and failed in my opinion) to "reclaim" the word.. that is what it means. Slave. Worthless. When a black person calls a white person a "cracker"... I don't even know what that means (from what I understand it is derived from the sound of the whip when whites used to beat blacks during slavery in America - and also the word was actually worn like a badge of honor for a time and white people called THEMSELVES 'crackers' out of pride... then the word slipped back down to simply referring to all whites... so unlike the word 'nigger' which has ALWAYS been racial... the word 'cracker' originated from slave speech and had less to do with race than with the instrument used by slave owners to beat the slaves and morphed into a racial term)). But I certainly don't think of violence and hatred directed towards whites when I hear it. If anything, you'd think of more violent imagery towards slaves, knowing where the word came from.

So yeah... non-whites in the real world can't go around saying racist isht and not get in trouble, believe it or not.

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Why is that? Do I deserve less respect than a person of color because some white man did something to minorities somewhere, sometime?

Do you need validation as a human from other races? If so, you continue to enslave yourself.

Not at all. They are all disrespectful things to say. However, trying to equate the terms is ridiculous. They are not the same and they do not hold the same weight.

Which is worse? Calling a woman a 'jerk' or calling her a 'cunt'? They are both disrespectful things to say but I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who would honestly say to you "I would be equally offended if someone called me a jerk OR a cunt". The weight is not the same. They are not the same.

I would say it is certainly necessary for minority races to have validation of humanity from majority races. Otherwise.... well.. we get American history. Dehumanization is a real thing. You don't have to do it based on race but because race is such a visible thing and because America has such a horrendous past surrounding it... it remains the easiest way for people in this country to dehumanize others. The fact of the matter is that 70% of this country (and falling) is white and only about 15% is black. The blacks need the whites to recognize them as human AND as equal because that 15% can't do ANYTHING against the 70%. Especially when that 70% has most of the money, land, resources, etc. (and not by accident).

People forget that it really hasn't been that long since equality. Mildred Loving (who I wrote a little post on today) died today. In 1968 she and her husband fought the state of Virginia to get inter-racial marriages recognized and they won. That is only 40 years ago. We have a long, long, long, long, long way to go. Race is going to be an issue for a long, long, long, long, long time.

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Izzy, look at how Africans treat each other. Look how the different Muslim sects, (Shia and Sunni) treat each other. It's not a racial thing., it's certainly not just an American History thing. It's a human being thing. Human beings have always tended to mistrust "different". Societies feed on this, always have, probably always will. Race will always be an issue, on the social front, everywhere. All anyone can do is live their own life. Mankind isn't going to change.