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04-07-2008, 01:21 PM
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04-07-2008, 02:59 PM
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I'm a 67 year old white guy. I grew up in the San Francisco area- my parents went to integrated Berkeley High. Most of the white guys I knew favored civil rights and Martin Luther King and sat wherever they wanted. My family is multi racial and ethnic. I believe in hybrid vigor. I love seeing it
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04-07-2008, 03:51 PM
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As for King, I didn't make him do the things he did. He could have done things differently. Why didn't he?
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????? like what he could have not preached peace??? he could have just shut up and deal with the segregation??
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By he way, white America didn't kill King, a single man did.
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history proves that white america hated king and other blacks, when he was shot dead who rejoiced??
He was ignorant and racist.
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For any argument you come up with against white racism, there are an equal number of incidents and people of the black race who are just the same.
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ok please show me where black people hung white people and enslaved them, where black people made it law for whites to be slaves and law for them to be segregated,please show me where blacks went into europe and stole whites from their land and brought them to their land as slaves whipped them killed them tar an feathered them raped their wives while they were picking cotton. PLEASE SHOW ME THIS!!
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Here is the bottom line Nash: Anyone with a brain and a decent soul does not hate someone because of the color of their skin or religion, etc. They may disagree with ideologies or situations, but don't hate people.
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I agree with this, also to add they dont try to degrade men by spreading rumours and hearsey!! and they dont talk about dead men trying to ruin their character with false information or half truths,
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04-07-2008, 06:02 PM
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ok please show me where black people hung white people and enslaved them, where black people made it law for whites to be slaves and law for them to be segregated,please show me where blacks went into europe and stole whites from their land and brought them to their land as slaves whipped them killed them tar an feathered them raped their wives while they were picking cotton. PLEASE SHOW ME THIS!!
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Blacks don't enslave whites. They mistreat their own people! Are those crimes O.K. if black does it to black? Look to Africa for how your people treat each other. Why is that Nash? I want you to tell me. Specifically, the cocoa industry in Ghana. I believe "enslavement" fits the situation. Then there's the "cleansing" of white people in South Africa. You need to learn the history of your own people and original continent before pointing a self righteous finger at any other people or race.
Nothing I said about King was a half truth. And gee, maybe he could have come up with his own words. I never discounted his attempts, I simply said that he plagiarized, and HE DID! There is proof y'know. But of course, your opinion about the kind of man Mr. DEAD Lincoln was, is pure fact, eh?
This issue is beating a dead horse. You have made it clear however, that apparently blacks are never going to get over slavery in this country, because they don't want to. I just think that's sad, but it's not my responsibility to make you feel "good" about yourself as a human being or a black man because of somethint DEAD people did, or even something someone did 40 years ago. It's yours!
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04-07-2008, 08:25 PM
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Blacks don't enslave whites. They mistreat their own people! Are those crimes O.K. if black does it to black? Look to Africa for how your people treat each other. Why is that Nash? I want you to tell me. Specifically, the cocoa industry in Ghana. I believe "enslavement" fits the situation. Then there's the "cleansing" of white people in South Africa. You need to learn the history of your own people and original continent before pointing a self righteous finger at any other people or race.
Nothing I said about King was a half truth. And gee, maybe he could have come up with his own words. I never discounted his attempts, I simply said that he plagiarized, and HE DID! There is proof y'know. But of course, your opinion about the kind of man Mr. DEAD Lincoln was, is pure fact, eh?
This issue is beating a dead horse. You have made it clear however, that apparently blacks are never going to get over slavery in this country, because they don't want to. I just think that's sad, but it's not my responsibility to make you feel "good" about yourself as a human being or a black man because of somethint DEAD people did, or even something someone did 40 years ago. It's yours!
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Hey Nash, if you are both a Bahama lawyer and a US citizen, you are one fortunate and lucky fellow- the luck to be born with US citizenship, and to be Black while in the Bahamas, and fortunate in becoming a Bahama lawyer. History is interesting, and I am happy to see that its twists and turns has given you the good luck that you have used to your advantage. I've never been to the Bahamas, but the pictures and stories are enticing.
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04-08-2008, 04:13 PM
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Nash, I'm sorry, but there is know way that you can argue this.
For a person to be so against racism, you seem to be the only one on this thread. I respect your views, but please note that just because you are Black does not make you a better person than me.
I refuse to take responsibility for crimes committed by someone who happened to have the same color of my skins.
Think over your answers before you look like a hypocrite.
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04-11-2008, 07:55 AM
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Blacks don't enslave whites. They mistreat their own people! Are those crimes O.K. if black does it to black? Look to Africa for how your people treat each other. Why is that Nash? I want you to tell me. Specifically, the cocoa industry in Ghana. I believe "enslavement" fits the situation. Then there's the "cleansing" of white people in South Africa. You need to learn the history of your own people and original continent before pointing a self righteous finger at any other people or race.
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The history shows that what is happinig in africa is due to colonialzation of africa, if you want to study the original continent look at the effect that euroupe had on africa then you can see why africa is the way that it is
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Nothing I said about King was a half truth. And gee, maybe he could have come up with his own words. I never discounted his attempts, I simply said that he plagiarized, and HE DID!
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well then stop bullshitting and bring it out publicly!!
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But of course, your opinion about the kind of man Mr. DEAD Lincoln was, is pure fact, eh?
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I quoted exactly what lincon said do you have anything different?
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This issue is beating a dead horse. You have made it clear however, that apparently blacks are never going to get over slavery in this country, because they don't want to. I just think that's sad, but it's not my responsibility to make you feel "good" about yourself as a human being or a black man because of somethint DEAD people did, or even something someone did 40 years ago. It's yours!
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its clear that the anger you had for blacks during kings time is the same you have today
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Hey Nash, if you are both a Bahama lawyer and a US citizen, you are one fortunate and lucky fellow- the luck to be born with US citizenship, and to be Black while in the Bahamas, and fortunate in becoming a Bahama lawyer. History is interesting, and I am happy to see that its twists and turns has given you the good luck that you have used to your advantage. I've never been to the Bahamas, but the pictures and stories are enticing.
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No im not a bahama lawyer, i am however a bermudian and an american citizen.Ive studied law in the US but it wasent for me i got into engineering thanks for the words however it was not by luck only by hard work did i get where i am thank you though
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Nash, I'm sorry, but there is know way that you can argue this.
For a person to be so against racism, you seem to be the only one on this thread.
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what are you trying to say here? are you insinuating that im the lone prey and you and the others are a pack of predators??
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I respect your views, but please note that just because you are Black does not make you a better person than me.
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to say you respect my views shows disrespect because ive never once questioned your respect of my views. So you have disrespected me by assuming that i didnt think that you respected my views. and did i ever say that being black makes me better than you??
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04-11-2008, 08:00 AM
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to say you respect my views shows disrespect because ive never once questioned your respect of my views. So you have disrespected me by assuming that i didnt think that you respected my views.
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04-11-2008, 09:47 AM
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Blacks don't enslave whites. They mistreat their own people! Are those crimes O.K. if black does it to black? Look to Africa for how your people treat each other. Why is that Nash? I want you to tell me. Specifically, the cocoa industry in Ghana. I believe "enslavement" fits the situation. Then there's the "cleansing" of white people in South Africa. You need to learn the history of your own people and original continent before pointing a self righteous finger at any other people or race.
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you make a mistake when you see all black people as one race. an african american has established a very different identity of that of 'black people in africa'. it is retarded to say 'how your people are treating eachother' for the many peoples in africa never have been one people and differ a great deal more from eachother than you seem to be aware of. 'black people' is not a race in the global perspective.
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04-11-2008, 10:34 AM
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[quote=Nash;166219]
No im not a bahama lawyer, i am however a bermudian and an american citizen.Ive studied law in the US but it wasent for me i got into engineering thanks for the words however it was not by luck only by hard work did i get where i am thank you though  Quote: Sorry, I did not mean to imply that hard work was not involved, for little is achieved without both the work and the opportunity.
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