Oh My God! Learn your history.

100,000's of Blacks were not persecuted by the Germans! So if you're going to make up your own version of history, do it in a slightly belivable way.

Large amounts of Blacks are not advanicig in life, not because of slavery, but am inferiority complex. My great-grandparents came to America with nothing but drive and determination.

And they now acomplished in less than 40 years what you say the entire Black race could not accomplish in 200.

There is obviously something else at play.

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High school Extempers are quite possibly the most brilliant people on Earth.

History will always effect our present. it is only by studing it in the present can we make a better future and a much different history for that future. Also when you say stop listening and start looking but you forgot to mention that America has never never apologised for its mistreatment of blacks if we are to move forward then america has to heal those wounds.





america has 52 states, most americans identify with themselves as either a newyorker,im from jersey , or from chicago, but hardly ever do i hear the name im american we represent our state first. This is not to say that this is a bad thing but if we can do this then what is the problem with identifing as each other as a race? I agree our lable should be human and even as human as we are we have differences but that should not put any one above another.It should be equal white, black it should be equal, but it is not.


Ive never mentioned MLK but since you did tell me why white america wanted him dead?? Ive even heard rumours that hey was gay, when ever a black leader becomes succesful there is always a white person or persons who are the play devils advocate and try to bring them down.Tell me why this information that you have was not made public during MLK lifetime. You wait till the man is dead to talk shit about him, more and more your statments sound like a kkk clan member.The anger for black leaders is comming through your posts, and you say that you are a history teacher??

The amount of blacks killied in the german can be disputed however who talked about them no one. black germans unlike the Jews recieved no war reparations because their german citizenship was revoked.


go back 40 years your great grandparents were in a better position than blacks weve only had 38 years of no legal segregation so your great grand parents were able to find work faster than a black couple get more benifits than a black couples and how the fuck could the black race accomplish anything under slavery and then when they was freed laws set in place to hold them back??


there sure is

Whoa....I didn't cause Mr. King to plagiarize, so don't kill the messenger. All you have done is talk shit about white people who have been dead for two hundred years! Why is that O.K.?

Were you alive when King was killed? because I was. Do you know what social conditions were still like in the South, or do you just listen to stories which continue to feed the anger? Which brings up another point. Slavery was not nationwide, so please get over yourself and your race as being the poor unrewarded backbone of this country. It just isn't so. Geez.

Also, let's talk about segregation. Do you disagree that blacks segregate themselves? Go to any school darlin' and watch. If a white kid tries to sit down at the table that black kids are eating lunch at, if he is unknown to them, they will give him shit. Did that kid do something other than be white? Is that your concept of racial pride? What would you expect that white kid to think about blacks when that happens? You see, the truth of life is that white parents don't teach their kids to hate other races from birth. There's more to think about when you are trying to guide a child to do what he needs to do to make it in this world, and in this country.

You think I sound like KKK?, I love your limited repertoire of names to call whites. Why?, because I know more about King than those who line up for events commemorating him? Why is it O.K. for blacks to believe a lie about another black man, but whites have to rewrite history, because those people weren't what the history books say they were? I think that you actually attribute anything wrong that any black person on the planet does, to the "residual effects of slavery".

You really need to see the truth from both sides, yourself.

If you think that everyone who doesn't feel a need to fall over backwards to appease the black race is racist, then you are surrounded honey, and yes you are a victim, of your own hatred.

America is made up of Black Africans, White Europeans The native Americans and other races. Should they not all simply be Americans and be refered to such?

"Whoa....I didn't cause Mr. King to plagiarize, so don't kill the messenger. All you have done is talk shit about white people who have been dead for two hundred years! Why is that O.K.?

Were you alive when King was killed? because I was. Do you know what social conditions were still like in the South, or do you just listen to stories which continue to feed the anger?" - bododie


Two interesting points about context.

Within the context of MLK's entire life's work, how important are his failings?
I also am old enough to remember that assassination. I was a senior in high school in, of all places, Memphis, Tennessee. And I have to tell you - Nash was right in that many, many white people wanted King dead. The outrage expressed today at Jeremiah Wright's completely lifted-from-context remarks have given me a bit of a sense of deja vu - so similar to the outrage expressed about MLK back then.
How representative of Wright's entire life's work were those incendiary remarks he made? Who was his audience? Why was he saying that? Do you really think that it was because he wanted his congregation to go out and burn, loot and destroy? Even without knowing the context of those remarks, wouldn't it be more likely that he was basically (albeit not at all gracefully or judiciously) just trying to break down apathy and inspire his congregation to be more politically and socially concerned?

Someone said that slavery wasnt unique to America. It is still even in some places today. I think what is unique is that America was looked to as the land of opportunity and for many decades has had the highest standard of living and
way ahead of the curve in most ways. And we know which group was not allowed to participate and instead were abused and treated worse than animals.
I have heard the argument that all minorities, as they arrived here, were treated badly and discriminated against. They didnt come here in chains and ripped from their families. They were not lynched and treated like garbage well into the 50s and 60s. And they were always easy to recognize. I am 53 and grew up in N Fla. I saw things happen and remember the white only signs and colored restrooms and balconies and back doors blacks had to follow. Please understand, many of the black folks that endured that inhumanity still walk this earth today. Those wounds still bleed. Their children and grandchildren have to be affected in all kinds of ways by what happened to their parents and grandparents. I can imagine guilt, anger, sadness, feelings of not doing enough. When I read obituaries of black people in their late 50s and older they all have those same occupations of laborer or janitor or at best teachers. This was all they had allowed back in the day.
It always amuses me when I read how indignant some whites are by this perceived black hate or racism. They obviously have no clue about real hate or racism. They should go back and watch some of the video in the 60s of Arkansas schools or Birmingham marches. The murderous hate and vile language that spewed from many of those whites was astounding. And guess what, many of those still walk this earth with all the advantages they had over the black populations. But lets all just forgive and forget that ancient history...............unless of course you want to honor your heritage with the stars and bars or those glorious generals and battles in the War of Northern Aggression.

Here is something about your hated and vilified Rev Wright:


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Posted April 05, 2008 05:47 AM
By Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss

April 3, 2008

In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F. Kennedy's challenge to, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," gave up his student deferment, left college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.

In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery. For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House awarded him three letters of commendation.

What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.

While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President **** Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk about their love of the country?

After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained as a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of America's biggest cities.

This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, who has been in the news for comments he made over the last three decades.

Since these comments became public we have heard criticisms, condemnations, denouncements and rejections of his comments and him.

We've seen on television, in a seemingly endless loop, sound bites of a select few of Rev. Wright's many sermons.

Some of the Wright's comments are inexcusable and inappropriate and should be condemned, but in calling him "unpatriotic," let us not forget that this is a man who gave up six of the most productive years of his life to serve his country.

How many of Wright's detractors, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly to name but a few, volunteered for service, and did so under the often tumultuous circumstances of a newly integrated armed forces and a society in the midst of a civil rights struggle? Not many.

While words do count, so do actions.

Let us not forget that, for whatever Rev. Wright may have said over the last 30 years, he has demonstrated his patriotism.

Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss are, respectively, Navy and Marine Corps veterans. They work at The Center For American Progress. Korb served as assistant secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration.

Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune

Wrong its only been 38 years with no legal segregation!! Your post is typical of a racist, whenever there is a black man of outstanding character there is some racist white person with a lot of hate fueled up in their heart to spread rumours or try their best to defame or insult that character. How much of a coward is a person for trying to defame a person when they are dead. Why did not your infomation come out when King was alive, no you wait till hes dead to hurl accusations. Like i said before people wanted King dead that just doesen't mean physicaly, they wanted to destroy him moraly as well.

Yeah and did you rejoice with other white people when he died? Did you march with him were you one of those whites who stood on the front line with King?? Just by your racist posts I can see that King was not held high in your eyes, were you happy when he died or did you cry?




who started segregation in the USA, if you were around when King was alive did you go to the whites only bathrooms, the white only resturants, did you give up your seat for a black person? did you sit at the back of the bus??? did you call us humans or did you under your breath call us the n word do you still call us the n word? did you love blacks back then or did you feel that what was happening was justice to blacks?

Wow then why did it take so long to get out of segregation???

even his wife who passed? even his brothers even his family?? you are amazing!!!

Stephenpe,
THANK YOU!
I really wanted to know more about Wright's whole being. I think you provided a much more meaningful slice of that big picture than the mass media's interminably repeated out-of-context quotes.
Unfortunately, some, who enjoy surfing on self-righteous waves of anger , will not care to think about the bigger picture.
But the rest of us truly appreciate the view.

As for King, I didn't make him do the things he did. He could have done things differently. Why didn't he? By he way, white America didn't kill King, a single man did. He was ignorant and racist. For any argument you come up with against white racism, there are an equal number of incidents and people of the black race who are just the same. You just think that black people have an excuse for anything that they do, except for those ( like Bill Cosby) who actually call their own race down on the rug for the attitudes that I have mentioned, then they, the ones who actually did what it took to make it in this life and this country, are "traitors". Here is the bottom line Nash: Anyone with a brain and a decent soul does not hate someone because of the color of their skin or religion, etc. They may disagree with ideologies or situations, but don't hate people.