ahhh refreshing to hear from an intellegent person what would make your statement even much more better if it was comming from a member of the white race and if it is comming from a member then you my friend is what those from the black race love to see. People who are not and will not ever be like their ancestors(the slave masters)

I don't disagree that there is racism. What Nash doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that blacks are racist too, and he thinks that it's O.K. for them, because he saw "Gone with the Wind" and thinks that everybody had hundreds of slaves, and nobody treated them well. He also would never believe that blacks actually OWNED blacks in those "slave days". He wants the white race of today to bleed for what happened hundreds of years ago. I don't bleed for something I didn't do. I do in fact have that degree, therefore I KNOW that the remark that this country was built by the labors of black slaves is just plain stupid and insulting, and not the remark of someone with a higher education. Nash is infinitely more racist and blind to truth than most white people. I hate to break it to him, but your average white person is just living a life and couldn't bother being racist just because of someone's skin. If he believes he represents black people, then apparently they are not able to do this. Nash also seems to believe that all black people are wonderful to each other and would never take advantage of another black person. What a wonderful world. In that case segregation is a good thing, because whites aren't so wonderful to each other...

One word: Ashanti. That word should mean something to all blacks.

Oh yeah, Obama turned his back on his pastor because it might hurt his political career. I love brotherhood. Then there's Ray Nagin's chocolate town. There are so many threads that this issue could go down it's amazing. But, certain blacks will skirt them and condone all behavior because of "slavery".

I'm glad I did what it took to get an education, work REALLY hard, and have a life of my making without federal aid and pity. So did those blacks that I call friend, and who have even less patience with those with Nash's attitude than I ever would.

your attitude is why youve most likely have not yet obtained your masters you are content with your thinking and reject pure truth, I see you have not answered the 14 amenment post historian! Look im not trying to beat you down or make fun of you and im sorry if it seems that way maybe we have a miscomunication somewhere, maybe if your able to look at black history from the other side then you would see the results of slavery and what it had on black people, this would make you a true historian .

Who said I didn't have a Master's? News flash, a Bachelor's alone has been pretty useless for some time now.

As for the emancipation proclamation, Lincoln never would have freed the slaves if they weren't needed to fight. Pure truth. Was he an evil man? Probably not, but his job was to preserve the nation and ensure that it wasn't destroyed by outside factors because the nation was weakened by the Civil War. It has really never been the job of the federal government to take care of all of the needs of it's individual citizens or even factions. If they did, how would that be any different than being owned?

Whites are not what is holding the black community of today back in this country. It is the lack of an education, that a great majority of the black community does not strive to achieve. Do you really think that an uneducated white person will be employed before an educated black one? Full scholarships for college are readily available, especially for minorities, but one has to do the work to deserve it.

Now, I'm not trying to bash you either, but can you admit that blacks are holding themselves back, in this country at least, by depriving themselves of chances because they would rather complain about slavery?

[quote=bododie;161440]Who said I didn't have a Master's? News flash, a Bachelor's alone has been pretty useless for some time now.

did you look at what lincon said to green??? he needed those slaves to be pawns to make sure it was more of them who died and not the whites, he freed them so that they could die for his cause not for freedom!! Was he evil yes he was he had no intent of freeing the slaves but yet history or the way it is taught in schools is that lincon is the great hero with a huge heart who saved the slaves


taking care of someone is not having them as a slave,look at the history of spain under islamic government for over 900 years one of the pactices in this type of government is for the rich to take care of the poor till they get in a position to rich and repeat the cycle but the rich do not own the poor.

No i never said that whites are, however the system that was and is still set in place by the slave masters are, the lack of eucation is the same as not teaching a slave how to read, blacks that have been born poor have no choice but to seek a good education but that cost money money that the government is not interested in giving to freely.were as in the white communities alot of their forefathers profited form slavery and schooling back then which provided them with money and an education to succeed for their generations to come, the black forfathers however were slaves never got a chance to go to school and were left with nothing but to teach their generation how to serve the white mans system better. Yes education is there now for blacks but it is very poor what the teachers have to use is shit, now only very few slip through and become successful thats why so many scholarships for college are readily available because this system knows that no way in hell is a whole bunch of blacks going to succeed only a hand ful will.

yes if his parents have good friends then yes and it happens now.

no blacks are not holding themselves back by "complaining about slavery" we are striving to get educated but the effects of slavery is allways rising up so as we are becoming educated we must also speak out against a system that was desgined to hold us down and make sure that it never comes back that it dies. To those trapped in the system they can do nothing but complain now their complaining about the whit man holding them back is bullshit they need to fight hard to get an education with this yes you are right.

You know, you're just not going to admit that blacks hinder themselves,and that it's not the fault of the the "white slaveowners". It's O.K. Let's not argue anymore, it's pointless. However, with your attitude, why shouldn't I be fearful if I walk down the street alone and see a group of black men. They obviously hate me because I am white, eh?

Righteous indignation is toxic.
If you (anyone) can think of a time when it has ever been a good thing, let me know.
I think that both labeling and making generalizations about any person or group of people are often forms of righteous indignation.

toxic yeah, something new to mankind, no. Still to evade touchy issues is being part of the problem all the way. Political correctness strives to pretend that unpleasantness can be removed from the social consciousness if it is not addressed. I hope there's a Plan B.

yes i have admitted that blacks cannot blame the white man for everthing the behaviour is changing slowly however racisim is very heavy in the air. Their is no way that 38 years of no legal segregation is going to make up for hundreds of years of slavery, its going to take a long time before those wounds are healed. And if you see that as being whiny or complaining then your eyes are open wide shut




This is a stereotypical racial hatred qoute!




hmmm lets see, when slaves ran away from their slave masters, when slaves killed their slave masters for killing their family, when the underground railroad was started, when blacks were living under segregation, or how about now when whites want blacks to to stop being whiny about slavery

I think that it is stereotyping not indignation but thats my opinion

Nash, what's the matter? you don't like it when whites generalize about blacks? You proved a point. You're entire conversation has been stereotyping whites. You look for a remark that you can use to make yourself the victim. There are two sides. You play dumb when it comes to any repercussions that black society throws at whites because of an implied victimization that you won't let go of, but are right there, strong and defiant to jump up and cry racism. Can't you see, that your entire attitude toward whites is in fact the definition of racism? The difference in your mind is that you think that you have right to feel that way.