First off america has to admit it was wrong and apologize and the white race should be leading this. Like i said 100s of years of mistreatment will not be solved in 38 years.

to perpetuate mistrust i doubt that, to be on the look out for the same tactics used during the hardships of blacks bingo yes! You hav taught black children tell me when you did teach did you teach of the rape of africa and the settling of the new world,or what about the black troops used to save the lives of whites during americas revolutionary war,or the protestant reformation and the afrikan slave trade did you teach them how the white man killed and raped indian woman and killed the men to claim america, did you teach them from any black authors or was it from european text books? Did you teach them how the white man enslaved their race and to add insult to injury give them an image of God that looks like the white man.Did you teach them that the pharohs were black or that they were white?? What lies from those text books were you telling them. And when their parents tell them otherwise then you see that as teaching hate or mistrust? Hate no mistrust yes we are taught to study history not just his story and yes questions will come up but when you try to hide the truth or teach lies then you as a teacher should not be trusted to teach!




im sorry but this is a racist statment!!

Why should I apologize for something that I never did?

I have also taught black children, at various ages and in many different settings, and the truth is that many of them are taught by their parents AS WELL AS BY THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY ATTEND that they must band together as a race to "pay back" whites for centuries of mustreatment. They are not taught to try to move up in society by bettering themselves, rather they are taught to hate whites.

On the other hand, as a college professor, the black students that I have taught have proven to be some of the most hardworking and successful people that I know. Perhaps of black students are taught at a young age to aspire to be good human beings, instead of being taught to be good blacks, then I will see more black students passing through my classes and going on to be successful Americans.

[quote]The way I see it, the ball is in your court, not mine. I really hope that as a race blacks will rise above this sentiment and someday not waste another today, stewing about yesterday. I don't expect to ever see it.
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im sorry but this is a racist statment!![/QUOTE]

This is not a racist statement. It is the truth, and as much as I wish that it was incorrect, I fear that it is not.

come on professor that is b.s. and you know it that we should ban together and pay back whites ?? We are well i can speak for myself we are taught to think and not except what is giving to us we are to study and do deep thinking and not take western teaching as the sole source of knowledge for studing our history.

we as a race must have pride in our race! it was torn up and put down so much that we must be good humans beings yes and also reconise that we are of a race that was once put down and to be the best that we can be.This of course you should know, just look in the dictionary at the definition of black and white.




It is racist if your saying that blacks should just forget about their atrocities. over 200 years of slavery and only 38 years or no LEGAL SEGREGATION and we should just forget about it?? IM sorry professor but that is racist!!

O.K. No one seems to have a problem with racial pride, unless of course you're white today, then your racial pride is racism AGAINST the other races. You remarked earlier that the atrocities against blacks isn't taught in schools. Why should it be? Guess what, the atrocities done to the slavic people in their homeland, 400 years before black slavery, (ergo, the word SLAVE), isn't taught either. The atrocities that America perpetuated against the Irish, and the Chinese isn't taught either. Somehow I get the feeling that you don't care about them or what they suffered, but expect their descendants to care about your ancestor's suffering. You want America today to apologize for what America of the past did.

This may be a stretch, but get the point anyway. Are you responsible for the actions of black gangbangers against non minority Americans which is making history today? Is it going to be all right that the children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of black bangers today pay for the next several generations for their atrocities? The government turns a blind eye to this plague on society just as it did to slavery back when. Assuming that those descendants don't follow the same path, are they to be held responsible? After all, they will be the same race as those bangers are today.

And actually I believe that at least one of the southern states HAS issued an apology. It was obviously as appreciated and accepted as affirmative action was. What you are asking for is preferential treatment, not equal.
The condition of black society two hundred years ago was the result of European society. The condition of black society today is NOT. Until blacks accept this and do what every other nationality and race who was oppressed by this country does, namely put their efforts into being part of the total of American society and opportunities, and not defy white society as the attempt to honor your own heritage, then you will not like the outcome. When someone who is white says this to you, you immediately dismiss it as racist, and I think you look for it. Please stop.

The effects of slavery and segregation is still present today only 38 years of no LEGAL SEGREGATION

DEFY? DEFY?? WOW THIS IS A RACIST STATEMENT!! So we are not to challenge the white race to be better than their ancestors, we are not to elude or get away from white supremacy, we are not to resist white people who teach wrong history or who want to stick to old teachings we are not to defy you at all to try and establish our race like other established races we are not to defy you in that we should abdicate our position of establishing our race to you and not defy you. WOW UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT'S a racist statement. No race has the right to challenge another for anything,! Worry about your own race, and how you treat each other. Black on black crime on a daily basis around the world is worse any longer running than white on black atrocities, and correct history proves that they have been for a very long time than any white on black crime today. Who needs to be better than their ancestors? please clarify.

Establish your self as a race? How, like the conditions in South Africa since the whites were forcibly and violently removed and the country went to hell, except of course for those running it? Let's talk about that. Let's talk about ALL of the countries where blacks have RULE over their own people. Why shouldn't they apologize to their own race? I want you to stand there and say "this is a lie", and then you'd better present some truth, because I have a degree in History, and I can blow you out of the water with facts if you don't have one too. White supremacy? Get over it. Another obsolete excuse.

You sure didn't seem to want to discuss any points made that even hint that your race is it's own worst enemy.

Your refusal to admit any culpability in your condition is unto itsef defeatist. You don't need my help.

yes we have every right to challenge the new white race not to be anything like their forfathers.Not to have that white supremicist mind set we have every right to challenge the white race not to be like this. The treatment of our own race is bad only through the miseducation of our race and the put down by the racist whites.Again only 38 years without legal segregation, the black race has not even had time established itsself yet,

are you f...ing serious?? I know you dont really believe this.

the system set in place put whites way above blacks, the system itself has put blacks against blacks pummped guns and drugs into black communities and set back and watched it unfold. And to your last statemant it is whites who need to be better than their ancestors
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Why did that happen in africa? because the blacks were tired of white rule it was the europeans who undeveloped africa all for their own selfish gain they robbed the country until the people got fed up with them. Was it wrong to forcible and violently remove "some" people yes it was but you have to look at the condition of the people under white rule then you would understand the actions.Those running it was helped by the same system of europeans and they stayed in power only because they still do their bidding, they are no way for the african people.All the other countries that have failed under black rule is simply because when blacks wanted independence the europeans pulled out and pulled out with their resources and connections and bacicly said fuck you to the new independent black country.



good if your a true historan then you can plainly see that, also i dont give two fucks about what degre you have i could sit here and brag about my phd and what school i attended but all of that means shit! Scare tactics dont work on me, and by the way thats what white racist do,they throw their papers around like they are so smart and everyone else is dumb. If your school taught you history then you learned his story and not true history


because thats bullshit and you know it

How can i be at fault for being born into a system that was set up by white racist. " We the people.... all men are created equal" all the while they owened slaves and were beating the shit out of them

You know, this can go on and on and nothing will be solved. All I can tell you is that I don't have any responsibility to your race at all. I don't owe you squat. Your attitude will is and will be the element that keeps the race segregated, not the actions of whites. You obviously are unable to admit that the lack of progress in the last 38 years that you keep harping on, is at all due to the fact that your race would rather keep complaining than do what it takes to use the preferential treatment that you have received since the civil rights amendment. Oh, by the way,"all men are created equal" doesn't mean everyone gets to reap the benefits of the efforts of others. It just means you have a right to pursue those things. If you really knew anything about this history of this country, you would also know that the average white person, who owned slaves didn't beat the shit out of them. You watch too much T.V. Is that where you got your Ph.D? Scare tactics don't work on whites either, and respect will never be bestowed on those who try to get something because of the suffering of those they never knew. Game over.

Bododie, that attitude is just as much a blockade towards racism as the many others. Racism is still very promionant in North America and still a big factor, and it is important to recognize that and work to try and steer our future generations away from these problems.

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Do you really have a degree in History??? You should know if you dont already that for years the supreme court ruled that the amenment did not extend the bill of rights to the states and not only did the 14 amenment fail to extend the bill of rights to the states it also failed to protect the rights of black citizens. Lincon only freed the slaves to save the union lincon wrote to horace greenly that if he could save the union without freeing ANY of the slaves he would do it an that if he could save it by freeing some and leaving the OTHERS IN SLAVERY he would do it. All the 14 amenment was for was freeing the slaves to get more man power to win the war all this did was piss off white people in the south more thus giving rise to the kkk and plans to keep blacks "enslaved" but free at the same time.



If you believe this statement you wrote then clearly you can see that america was built off the backs of slaves. The whit race reaped pure benifits off the backs of their slaves and guess what, THE SLAVES WERE NOT PAID!!

nO IT WAS NOT THE AVERAGE WHITE PERSON it was the majority of the slave masters!! only a minority treated slaves good


Again racist statment!!!!!! and if you see this as a game well you are entitled to your opinion this to me wasnt a win or lose debate it was information and i learned from one white person that their is still racism out there I really hope that your not teaching not until you really study history!!