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Old 01-03-2007, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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HUD Secretary Attacks Black Victimhood

HUD Secretary Attacks Black Victimhood

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Isn't this interesting ? I've been saying this for awhile. The only way black people are victims today is if they put on the victim clothes they're encouraged to wear by moronic shmucks like jesse hijackson and al notsosharpton. The blacks Ive known here (where I live) are quite succesful and only shake their heads at these bozos. They know there's no reason for them to make victims of themselves by buying the lies told to them by these racketeers.


Alphonso Jackson, the secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, says that black leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Julian Bond are doing a disservice to blacks by perpetuating an ideology of victimhood.


"They [black leaders] have created an industry," Jackson, who is black, told NewsMax. "If we don't become victims, they have no income. They have no podium."


Rather than confronting real issues that face blacks, African-American leaders suggest that "it's racism that's stopping everything that we're doing," Jackson said.


"They are in the business of making excuses," he said. "White folks have nothing to do with the fact that seven out of every 10 black children born in this country are born out of wedlock," Jackson said. Nor do they have anything to do "with that fact that we have more black males in prison than we do in college."


While racism still exists, "Young black kids are getting every opportunity that they need, just like every other kid," Jackson said. "I think in 2006 to say that everything is the fault of our brothers and sisters of the lighter hue is ridiculous."


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Old 01-04-2007, 08:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That guy sounds pretty good. Here is the website of another guy who I think is a damn good guy. His name is Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.

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Old 01-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A look at Alphonso Jackson's bio is of interest:

Alphonso Jackson Biography - HUD

~Immediately preceding his appointment at HUD, Jackson served as President of American Electric Power-TEXAS, a $13 billion utility company located in Austin, Texas.~

Long way from the 'hood.
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In nominating Jackson, President George W. Bush chose a leader with a strong background in housing and community development, expertise in finance and management, and a deep commitment to improving the lives of all Americans.


Of coarse this could all be propaganda, but I like that he's looking out for ALL Americans.
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I've attended a high school NEAR the ghetto. Never actually attended one IN the ghetto. However, if Jackson is saying that the schools in the ghetto are equal to the ones outside of it, then he's talking a lot of BS.

I believe that inner-city blacks lack the access to jobs enjoyed by their white counterparts. I could be wrong though. The ghetto could be a product of historical racism, and the damage from decades of racism.

Also, I don't buy his comment about Julian Bond or Jesse Jackson, not even Al Sharpton for that matter. Would anyone like to show how any of these three men advocate "black victimhood?" To call for justice in response to police brutality or hate crimes as "advocating victimhood" is a rather slavish mentality.
Just listen to his radio show.
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In nominating Jackson, President George W. Bush chose a leader with a strong background in housing and community development, expertise in finance and management, and a deep commitment to improving the lives of all Americans.


Of coarse this could all be propaganda, but I like that he's looking out for ALL Americans.
In my past associations I've never met a politician or bureaucrat looking out for anything but self-serving interest. Those introductory slogans are stock phases stored in every speech writer's word processing program. Sorry for the cynicism, I've never personally known a federal cabinet member, but associations up to that level make me deny their ability to suddenly become public minded. With few exceptions, politics are all about power and money.
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Well yeah, I definately agree with that. But the fact that he says that he is for the improvement of all Americans, and not just a particular group, I thought was notable.
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I don't know. I just know that there is an AM station down here where I can listen.
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In my past associations I've never met a politician or bureaucrat looking out for anything but self-serving interest. Those introductory slogans are stock phases stored in every speech writer's word processing program. Sorry for the cynicism, I've never personally known a federal cabinet member, but associations up to that level make me deny their ability to suddenly become public minded. With few exceptions, politics are all about power and money.
One of the main issues i learned im my political science class last semester is that every politician's #1 goal is re-election. Everything they do is about being re-elected, and that's it really. They make policy from how they think they can get re-elected.

So your past associations are 100% correct.
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