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Old 01-09-2007, 12:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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To call for justice in response to police brutality or hate crimes as "advocating victimhood" is a rather slavish mentality.
Maybe i didn't see it for whatever reason, but response to what police brutality? Or are you just speaking of possibly past instantces?
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One of the main issues i learned im my political science class last semester is that every politician's #1 goal is re-election. Everything they do is about being re-elected, and that's it really. They make policy from how they think they can get re-elected.

So your past associations are 100% correct.
You're fortunate. My first poly sci professor was an arrogant jerk who responded to every lecture question with a condescending question, made we starving students buy his book and was deeply disliked by everyone but his grad student helpers who had no choice. One of those people who made a bad career choice.
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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ATLANTA -- Three Atlanta police officers were shot and wounded and an elderly woman killed at a house in northwest Atlanta Tuesday night.

The woman, identified by relatives as 92-year old Kathryn Johnston, opened fire on the officers from the narcotics division at a house at 933 Neal Street, according to officials



Dreher said as soon as the officers forced open the door, Johnston shot at the officers and the officers returned fire to protect themselves. One officer was shot 3 times – once in the leg, on the side of the face and once in his bulletproof vest. One officer was hit in the leg and another hit in their arm.

Dreher said suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but they are awaiting lab results to confirm the items are drugs.

Police: Shooting Of Elderly Woman "Tragic, Unfortunate" - News

Police brutality? Yea right! Are you sure Jackson and co. are taking on this case?
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't know that the majority of blacks feel they are victims. That may have been true a decade or two ago (I'm not too terrible educated on such things), but the black youth that I encounter on a regular basis that are in class slums sort of seem indifferent more than anything (that is to say, they don't have a leaning one way or another). They don't seem incredibly intent on rising out of any personal problems they have and at the same time don't make themselves victims because of it either. It seems they just are in a certain spot and have "accepted" where they are, which is a bad thing though. It's quite odd.

At the same time, yes, I have met one or two who blame their problems on others and I've met more than that who are the kind mentioned by the OP, that do well for themselves and shun the 'victim' mantra. It's a little more than black and white. I think most are sort of indifferent, caught up in a culture of amusement and entertainment which is blinding them from either attitude mentioned (though I say this doesn't apply only to black people).

WEB has spoken about before, and has a point to a degree I think, about a 'trap' that many blacks have fallen into WRT the poverty they encounter. However, I don't think it's a trap of having a certain negative attitude (though that may possibly be the case with a certain percentage), but maybe a lack of an outlook altogether (i.e., the indifference I have noticed). Maybe entertainment and a culture of focusing on that has served as a facet in contributing to this trap? But again, this seems to affect generally most of the youth I run into, not just certain minorities.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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ATLANTA -- Three Atlanta police officers were shot and wounded and an elderly woman killed at a house in northwest Atlanta Tuesday night.

The woman, identified by relatives as 92-year old Kathryn Johnston, opened fire on the officers from the narcotics division at a house at 933 Neal Street, according to officials



Dreher said as soon as the officers forced open the door, Johnston shot at the officers and the officers returned fire to protect themselves. One officer was shot 3 times – once in the leg, on the side of the face and once in his bulletproof vest. One officer was hit in the leg and another hit in their arm.

Dreher said suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but they are awaiting lab results to confirm the items are drugs.

Police: Shooting Of Elderly Woman "Tragic, Unfortunate" - News

Police brutality? Yea right! Are you sure Jackson and co. are taking on this case?
That whole thing was a big mess. That one news article does not even brush the surface of what apparently happened. There are many articles that have been written since and that paint a better picture of what happened between the police and that woman. That is not a good example.
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