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12-27-2006, 05:42 PM
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Lord of entropy
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More reasons to hate Michael Savage
Because he's so bigotted and ignorant.
Talk Radio's Credibility Problem
By Cliff Kincaid
December 26, 2006
Dave Daubenmire, known as "Coach," has a good track record of acting on his conservative beliefs. In 1999 he was sued by the ACLU for praying with his teams while coaching high school in Ohio. Now he's going up against several prominent conservative radio talk show hosts, saying, "With the exception of Michael Savage, all of them are nothing more than Republican shills." He calls the bulk of conservative talk radio "bilge."
That's an overly harsh assessment, and talk radio has emerged as an important part of the "new media" which threaten liberal dominance. But one of the prominent conservative hosts, Rush Limbaugh, has made a fascinating admission.
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This would seem to suggest that Limbaugh understood that Republicans had abandoned their conservative principles but he decided to back and promote them anyway because he feared the Democrats would take power. Now the Democrats have taken power in part because the Republicans abandoned their principles. So the vicious circle has come back to bite Limbaugh, giving him "freedom" in the process. It would have been better to hold Republicans to their principles, rather than apologize for their misbehavior.
Chip McClean, publisher of Capitol Hill Coffee House, commented, "So Rush continued to openly support those he knew to be wrong because to him they represented the lesser of two evils. What Rush doesn't get is that he became part of the problem. The nation's most listened to talk radio host, instead of parroting the party line and helping to lead the lemmings over the cliff, could have used his influence to affect change within the Republican Party."
It's no wonder that the website of "independent conservative" Michael Savage seized on Limbaugh's comments, saying they constituted an admission that he had been deceiving his listeners about the Republican betrayal.
Media Monitor - Talk Radio's Credibility Problem - December 26, 2006
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12-27-2006, 06:24 PM
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Governor General
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I've never listened to talk shows, including Limbaugh. I do read some of the feedback from his many disciples who post on forums, and bilge would seem an appropriate word.
Let there be no doubt Republicans abandoned their conservative principles. I've never experienced government growth, fiscal irresponsibility, bum foreign policy or having religion shoved down my throat like the past six years have brought.
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12-27-2006, 06:48 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Originally Posted by george.d
I've never listened to talk shows, including Limbaugh. I do read some of the feedback from his many disciples who post on forums, and bilge would seem an appropriate word.
Let there be no doubt Republicans abandoned their conservative principles. I've never experienced government growth, fiscal irresponsibility, bum foreign policy or having religion shoved down my throat like the past six years have brought.
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They're shoving religion at you in Oregon ? Weird. Maybe you should move to a more conservative area. No ones shoving religion at US. Matter of fact it looks like religion is becoming a kind of criminal offense.
Liberals will tolerate you until you show any sign or speak any word of God. Then their calls for "tolerance" and "diversity" expose themselves for the intolerant idealogies that liberals have shrouded themselves in.
As long as you agree with them everythings fine. Disagree and your fucked.
And fucked HARD 
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12-27-2006, 06:55 PM
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Governor General
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Originally Posted by Thane
They're shoving religion at you in Oregon ? Weird. Maybe you should move to a more conservative area. No ones shoving religion at US. Matter of fact it looks like religion is becoming a kind of criminal offense.
Liberals will tolerate you until you show any sign or speak any word of God. Then their calls for "tolerance" and "diversity" expose themselves for the intolerant idealogies that liberals have shrouded themselves in.
As long as you agree with them everythings fine. Disagree and your fucked.
And fucked HARD 
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Few places in the US escape the gay marriage controversy, including Oregon, and that's based solely on belief system dogma.
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12-27-2006, 06:57 PM
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Sounds like you just decribed the NeoCon mentality Thane. That for us or against us ideology. 
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12-27-2006, 07:05 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Originally Posted by george.d
Few places in the US escape the gay marriage controversy, including Oregon, and that's based solely on belief system dogma.
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I thought we were talking about how we're in the process of exterminating any signs of religion from our society ?
I guess redefining the meaning of a human relationship, the word marriage, for sexual deviants would HELP that of course.
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
Sounds like you just decribed the NeoCon mentality Thane. That for us or against us ideology.
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Is a neocon a liberal then ? I'm well aware of the caustic hatred of liberals for America. If these neocons have the same attitude, then I'd suspect they're the same thing just dressed in a different name 
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12-27-2006, 07:15 PM
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Savage was right. Limbaugh was just a shill for the Republican Party and Bush in particular. It's rather telling that Limbaugh, after the GOP loss in the last election, said he didn't have to "carry water" for the Republicans any more.
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12-28-2006, 11:19 AM
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Lord of entropy
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Originally Posted by Scribbler1
Savage was right. Limbaugh was just a shill for the Republican Party and Bush in particular. It's rather telling that Limbaugh, after the GOP loss in the last election, said he didn't have to "carry water" for the Republicans any more.
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Savage was RIGHT about something ? So, we can't just dismiss him as a bigotted ignoramus
Awww ... da-a-a-a-a-nnnnnnnnguh. What can we do NOW 
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12-28-2006, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Thane
Savage was RIGHT about something ? So, we can't just dismiss him as a bigotted ignoramus
Awww ... da-a-a-a-a-nnnnnnnnguh. What can we do NOW 
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I never dismissed Savage as a bigoted ignoramus. I said he was crazy, but I liked him because he seems to hate just about everybody. He's also like most of us, in that we are all right about things once in a while. In fact, I agree with a fair amount of what he says, mostly because I say the same things and have been saying them long before I heard HIM say them. A little less vociferously, of course.
My problem with people and talk show hosts is they look to these guys as a replacement for individual thought. They let people like Limbaugh form their opinions for them because they are either too lazy or too dumb to make up their OWN minds. Some people I have known actually consider these shows sources of news rather than opinions.
I get a charge out of Limbaugh for one. People wait almost a hour to get on his gabfest and after the say "megadittos" a few times, Limbaugh gives them 20 seconds to say they agree with him about something before he hangs up and spouts 10 more minutes of his opinion on the subject. Hilarious.
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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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12-28-2006, 07:00 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Originally Posted by Scribbler1
I never dismissed Savage as a bigoted ignoramus.
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Oh, I know. Many others like to try really really hard to convince the world that Savage is a bigotted ignoramus.
They hate him because he exposes their ideas for the frauds and lies that they are.
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Originally Posted by Scribbler1
I said he was crazy, but I liked him because he seems to hate just about everybody. He's also like most of us, in that we are all right about things once in a while. In fact, I agree with a fair amount of what he says, mostly because I say the same things and have been saying them long before I heard HIM say them. A little less vociferously, of course.
My problem with people and talk show hosts is they look to these guys as a replacement for individual thought. They let people like Limbaugh form their opinions for them because they are either too lazy or too dumb to make up their OWN minds. Some people I have known actually consider these shows sources of news rather than opinions.
I get a charge out of Limbaugh for one. People wait almost a hour to get on his gabfest and after the say "megadittos" a few times, Limbaugh gives them 20 seconds to say they agree with him about something before he hangs up and spouts 10 more minutes of his opinion on the subject. Hilarious.
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I agree with that a lot. I think Savage stole MY words and thoughts though, I'm certainly not modeling my thoughts and opinions around HIM. He's modeling his around mine.
He has better control over his use of foul language than I ever would.
... but, that's why he's on the radio and I'm not 
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