Alqeada means to me CIA .. MI6 and Mossad and idiots arab who been brainwashed by the mind control program ...

A fairytale begin in Afghanistan to kill as much as Russian that could please the americans then used against Arab and Persians ..

Same as when boris used chechen against Russia and at the end they called chechen terrorist and neglected the fact that boris was the one who fund all this .

This is Alqeada to me and it really become so silly and boring when your country insist to publish and fake those vidoetape to bin laden or whoever .. to grap attentions ..

But dont get me wrong I do support any resistance that is true and really kill your troops and intelligence in our soil and I also pray for them .. but they are not alqeada anyway .



Navigator ... Yes and you prove everyday that Your greed has no limit
and no matter how much God will give you .. you will insist to ruin this world with your greed and savageness .

Shery...I'm not Christian. sorry wrong tree you're barking up.

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doesnt matter but you still supporting ... anything against my world ..
so it doesnt makes difference .. and if you are not christian .. why you are even put any comments here !


but I m sure you are a wrong tree .. I have no doubt in that .

One of my neighbors kids is an Iraq vet. I moderate for this site, and I would be ashamed to moderate for a site that allowed people to say they wish for our troops death. Ergo, you are finished on this site.

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Damn....I had a good come back for her/it

I served in the Mid-East in '90-91 and '01 to '04, I heard that same Verbal Diarrhea over there.

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Wow, you served in both wars. That's pretty amazing. I think you'd have a lot of good insight on the Iraq War, the Surge and whatnot.

Do you think that our strategy in Iraq will work? Will there be a democracy that outlasts a US occupation of 100,000 troops?

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I served from '82 to 04,(Navy) before being medically retired due to injuries from the Iraq war/war on terror

No it will not work, just read the posts from Shery. 'Nuff said.

( I will go into it in detail if you so desire)

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I'm a bit more optimistic than you are about it, but of course you've got way more experience than I do, dealing with actual Iraqi's, although on the other hand, you can't understand what they're saying I'm willing to bet.

In any case, yeah I'd be interested in hearing why you say it can't work.

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I could be wrong, as I have many, many times in my life...but here's my take.

Western democracies live in harmony with religion for the most part, it is part of our lives..not the reason for our lives. never underestimate the hold and power that the clerics hold on the people. It is much like the Christian churches hold during the Middle ages, to be "cast out" of their religion is a death sentence in their society.

The Military victory in Iraq although complete had little or no follow on plan, and their biggest mistake was once we had the Iraq army in compounds, we simply disarmed them and sent them on their way.

We dumped a million disillusioned, defeated, military trained young men into the general population with no future or job. This is the pool that the insurgents come from.

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Sure we screwed up after we won on the battlefield, but that doesn't mean that we'll lose the peace.

There's a lot of variables involved.

* Whether the people support their government
* Whether their army stands or runs
* Whether or not the insurgents still want to fight once we start to pull our troops out


I think the Shi'ite and Kurds would at least want to support the government, as they have the most to gain by doing so. So all they need to do is train an army that won't run away, and we're giving them time to do that. The question is if we can actually build up an army that identifies enough with their government, that they will actually fight and not run away. The people have to believe that the government is theirs and take control of it.

If they just say eh, the government is corrupt, or it's a puppet government, then I guess it will fall.

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