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Old 10-30-2007, 03:12 PM
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The theory of Big bang will be perfact forever?

I 'd like to know from when started the theory of big bang?
It's not so long time ago in 20° centry only.
Also, already they started deny to some theory of Einstein.
And the all of scientists did accord of this "big bang"?
The science of human being is accomplished?
Or will be more and more developing in future?
Our science theories are the true like almightly in now?
Or have to change & have the other strange theories that still unknowing?
How can be perfect in science as like do not need any more?
I am sure it's not finished the theory of universe, even we don't know the end of universe or before big bang.
Will not be it rotations of the other big bang after disparature of this unversity?
Like the theory of asiatic philosophe...
Who knows the end of theory!

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I 'd like to know from when started the theory of big bang?
It's not so long time ago in 20° centry only.
Also, already they started deny to some theory of Einstein.
And the all of scientists did accord of this "big bang"?
The science of human being is accomplished?
Or will be more and more developing in future?
Our science theories are the true like almightly in now?
Or have to change & have the other strange theories that still unknowing?
How can be perfect in science as like do not need any more?
I am sure it's not finished the theory of universe, even we don't know the end of universe or before big bang.
Will not be it rotations of the other big bang after disparature of this unversity?
Like the theory of asiatic philosophe...
Who knows the end of theory!
theories theories theories...in a sense, isnt relegion just another theory thats not based on science?
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:23 PM
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theories theories theories...in a sense, isnt relegion just another theory thats not based on science?
If you count on the philos or thoughts as like religious!
But the mathematics came from philos like Pitagoras in Greece!
The big theories depend on the thought of science too.
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theories theories theories...in a sense, isnt relegion just another theory thats not based on science?
Religion is a theory that is based above science. Religion is a theory that dictates why science is happening. Science will always ask why and never be satisfied. It doesn't matter how far science gets in the next 50 years or even 5,000 years, they will still be asking why, just to different questions, and religion will say that God is the answer to the final why. Which "why" it is, they don't know, but they believe that God is the final answer.
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Religion is a theory that is based above science. Religion is a theory that dictates why science is happening. Science will always ask why and never be satisfied. It doesn't matter how far science gets in the next 50 years or even 5,000 years, they will still be asking why, just to different questions, and religion will say that God is the answer to the final why. Which "why" it is, they don't know, but they believe that God is the final answer.
thats almost like lying to yourself to feel better.
I want to know the TRUTH not something to make me feel good. If God IS the truth I will be happy. If science is the truth I will be happy.
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thats almost like lying to yourself to feel better.
I want to know the TRUTH not something to make me feel good. If God IS the truth I will be happy. If science is the truth I will be happy.
Not quite, that's like having a theory that you can't prove until you die. Once you get your proof, you can't prove it to others because... you're dead. I don't know where it is that God is acting in on creating the phycal laws that we call science, but science will never reach an end, it will never come to the conclusion that they've reached the end of science, so it can never find the final truth. Ergo, that final truth is not in science, so religion has a thoery on that final truth, that science will never find, that doesn't make it a lie, it makes it a theory that will be proven or disproven to each and every one of us upon our deaths.
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Not quite, that's like having a theory that you can't prove until you die. Once you get your proof, you can't prove it to others because... you're dead. I don't know where it is that God is acting in on creating the phycal laws that we call science, but science will never reach an end, it will never come to the conclusion that they've reached the end of science, so it can never find the final truth. Ergo, that final truth is not in science, so religion has a thoery on that final truth, that science will never find, that doesn't make it a lie, it makes it a theory that will be proven or disproven to each and every one of us upon our deaths.
I guess it's easy for me to jump to "lie" simply because thats what I think it is. Need to work on that!
Thats what makes me uneasy, you cant prove it until your dead so youll never really know if your wrong-only if your right!

Many people are forgeting that religion was created for really one purpose (originally)-to answer unexplanable questions. Back then (700BCE) they didn't have the technology we have and had to use supernaturals to explain things. As time went on and sciences grew, many things have began to become able to be proven.
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I guess it's easy for me to jump to "lie" simply because thats what I think it is. Need to work on that!
Thats what makes me uneasy, you cant prove it until your dead so youll never really know if your wrong-only if your right!

Many people are forgeting that religion was created for really one purpose (originally)-to answer unexplanable questions. Back then (700BCE) they didn't have the technology we have and had to use supernaturals to explain things. As time went on and sciences grew, many things have began to become able to be proven.
That's an opinion that it was created only to explain what they didn't know. Religion is used to explain the unknown, but it wasn't created to solve the unknown. Many believed that it was there because they didn't like the idea that humans were at the top. Others liked the idea that the government above them would be held accountible in some other life (or hell, or something)
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That's an opinion that it was created only to explain what they didn't know. Religion is used to explain the unknown, but it wasn't created to solve the unknown. Many believed that it was there because they didn't like the idea that humans were at the top. Others liked the idea that the government above them would be held accountible in some other life (or hell, or something)
Thats where religion fails me. I already know what. I really can wait on why. But i want to know how so I can better develope me own knowlage and help humanity, or at least my country
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Thats where religion fails me. I already know what. I really can wait on why. But i want to know how so I can better develope me own knowlage and help humanity, or at least my country
There's nothing wrong with wanting to make the world a better place, religion doesn't say so. Religion doesn't say that science is wrong or should be dismissed. Many scientists are religious.
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