TitusCicero

I fail to see how your article disproves anything I said except maybe the Big RIP theory?

Ygorl

Like I said:

When you say that, it only shows how little you really know about this subject.

Get and read the full article, there's much more too it. Not that you're really interested.

Study the subject a LOT more before telling us "facts" about the big bang. "Facts" that you're finding at wikipedia

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Yarn

If the Big Bang theory is true but God doesn't exist at all, how then have we come to being?

Possibility and chance.

And more importantly, what gave the energy for the Big Bang?

The fart of a cosmic gopher.

What created the Atom or whatever it was responsible for the Big Bang?

The fart of another cosmic gopher.

And how necassarily does the Big Bang disprove the existance of God?

It doesn't.

How then did all the items in the universe just create themselves?

Either something always has been or some things came out of nothing or both. This defies common sense, but is proven by the existence of anything.

How can they merely come into being without being created?

The origin of everything cannot be a creation. How can a creator create himself before he exists?

How can you tell me that the universe has always existed when we have a highly probable theory that suggests that it was created through an explosion of mass proportions and energy?

The Universe originally was an extremely small ball containing a massive amount of mass. In that form it may have always existed until it exploded. As stated previously it was a gopher's fart which caused the explosion.

What too gave the atom or whatever it was the means of a violent reaction in which it was able to erupt, spawning the universe?

The methane content of some farts is sufficient to ignite itself.

counterpointing

You have a lot of quarries. I’m going to answer as best I can.

If the Big Bang theory is correct, then the only thing proven is that the Biblical version of creation is wrong. No one is ever going to try to prove God does not exist, nor will anyone try and prove that Zeus does not exist. Moving on…

There’s a false dilemma that I’ve heard flailed about by many religious devotees: everything came from nothing or it came from God. That’s ridiculous and does not reflect well on the devotee. Not a reasonable man on this earth says he knows how the universe was created. I don’t think anyone was meant to know. The only thing the Big Bang suggests is that the galaxies about us came from a central point, and just the ones we see (how can one know what’s beyond our telescopes’ vision?)

Why did the Big Bang bang in the silence of space? Well perhaps it reached critical mass when it absorbed a particle of dust (one particle too many) I don’t think it matters too much, but I’m sure there are thousands of explanations.

Yarn

I am an atheist...

I made the gopher fart postulations so as to show an alternative to god to explain the unknowable. Apparently you thought I was being sarcastic.

In my view, there is no direct evidence against there being a god. However since there is no good reason to believe in a god, to believe in a god is to guidancelessly speculate, and so a god probably doesn't exist. Which is why I don't believe there are any.

counterpointing

Cool. I’m used to combating religious zealots coming around trying to pass off the Word as true. I’m not an atheist, but I’m a secular skeptic and an unbeliever.

Yarn

Someone who believes no gods exist, is an atheist. Someone who believes a deity or deities may exist, is an agnostic.

counterpointing

I know, but I’ve read some of the stuff atheist organizations have said, and it sounded too much like a church. They wanted money and to preach a doctrine, and therefore I don’t want to be associated with their ideas. I was thinking maybe secular neopagan.

Yarn

They are activist athiests. That is to say, athiests who believe religion is a bad thing, and who therefore want to root it out.

Personally, I think religion has both positive and negative influences on the world, and its indeterminable whether it is overall good or bad.

At anyrate, whether or not you are an athiest is determined by your beliefs. If your beliefs mark you as being an athiest, you can no more reject falling under that definition than you can reject being a human being.

Spencer

Doe people really think any of this can be adequately explained by the conceptual mind? Please.