Shouldnt we hang Biologists? - Page 3 - Political Forum

W.E.B. Du Bois · #21 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 01:38 PM

dkv,

Just to let you know, there is no way you are going to be able to dodge this question: Shouldnt we hang Biologists?

Just FYI. A dodge of that question will only signal that you take no responsibility for anything you say, which implies that you need to be banned.

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Scribbler1 · #22 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dkv

REP: A.C.Grayling and Richard Dawkins
Faith is a meme. And it has properties of virus.

Thank you. However, that's TWO scientists out of how many hundreds of thousands (or more) of biologists and other scientists who believe in evolution there are in this world?
When you say things like "Science decalre Religion as VIRUS." and "And they should be hanged for encouraging disharmony... and bringing mental afflictions on the people at large." you are condemning them all.

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REP: If I was there I would not have allowed mistreatment of Scientists ..just as I protest the declaration of faith as virus.

But hanging isn't mistreatment?

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These political devils do not stand for anything .. not even reason.

Science has very little connection with politics. Your opinions are pretty unfocused, wouldn't you say? This is more of a rant, actually.

Izzibeth · #23 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dkv

REP: A.C.Grayling and Richard Dawkins
Faith is a meme. And it has properties of virus.

This is not a declaration by "scientists" that 'Religion is a VIRUS' as you have said. These are two atheistic individuals. They do not claim to speak for science. They speak for themselves. And although I'm sure that they believe it would be nice if religion disappeared but they are not calling for the forceful eradication of it or demanding that it be called "a virus" and treated as such. Science and the scientific community has not made such a statement about religion.

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REP: If I was there I would not have allowed mistreatment of Scientists ..just as I protest the declaration of faith as virus.

And... who are you exactly to "not allow mistreatment" of people?

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These political devils do not stand for anything .. not even reason.

Actually, I think one thing that they do stand for is reason. Calling for forceful eradication of religion would be unreasonable. The individuals you have listed do no such thing.

emptypepsi · #24 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

dkv,

Just to let you know, there is no way you are going to be able to dodge this question: Shouldnt we hang Biologists?

Just FYI. A dodge of that question will only signal that you take no responsibility for anything you say, which implies that you need to be banned.

WEB

I would concur, asking dkv to seriously consider a retraction of that statement before he returns to being owned in discussion by Scirbbler and Beth.

dkv · #25 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypepsi

So where do you get the idea that Dawkins should:

A. Be made to represent all of the biological community? (Can I conclude that catholic priests that engage in certain scandalous acts represent all of a certain community as well?)
B. Hung for his belief?

The idea was given by Dawkins and his associates .
It is being taught which means biologists are involved.
HUNG IS A STRONG WORD.
So why not remove all such theories from the school curriculum.
OK EVEN THAT IS STRONG
So why not support someone has an alternative theory.
EVEN THAT APPEARS TO IRRATIONAL
So why not declare that there is no one to show the way... all are
slaves of a system which has no conscience.

I dont come here to prove or disprove science or religion but make them understand each other .

dkv · #26 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzibeth

That's wonderful. That being said, just because he changed his mind doesn't mean that a god suddenly exists. He doesn't know everything. And what does this have to do with biologists being hanged for the theory of evolution?

REP: As I said acknowledging God does not mean anything. All it shows is humility and respect towards an ancient tradition.. Religion might even be wrong totally but declaring that didnt serve any purpose and instead acted against the humanity is too unjustified.I believe in justice. Whatever it takes.
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They should be prevented from denying god now? If people were prevented from denying god, asking questions about existence, and doing research into the answers to those questions then human beings would never have EVOLVED into something more intelligent. Or.. they would have.. just much more slowly.. since you can try to "prevent" people from denying or questioning god but it usually doesn't work very well. And again I haven't seen the latest scientific journal but I'm sure that the front page article isn't about how gods are "viruses".

REP:THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE... STUPID. THEY ARE CARRIERS OF MEME.
These memes will become part of the subconsious if they continue to preach what they are preaching. The subject will also be taught in Schools.
We must find a candidate who has more rational reasons to explain life.
This comes under the duty of state to protect citizens....
I do not oblige freedom of speech if leads to chaos and hatred ..Koran is this or that ... only serves to ignite hidden passions of hatred for tomorrow...
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Again, nobody has said this. I don't know who told you this but they lied.

You can't "take back a theory". It is either proven wrong, proven right, or remains a theory. Gene replication is not necessarily "mindless". There is a method to it (there's that old education thing again!). As for a purposeless existence... why does there need to be a purpose? I find the NEED for a purpose to life kind of troubling, myself. But science doesn't claim that there is no purpose to life.

REP: REREAD Science claims there is no purpose of life.
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Trust me........ everyone knows this.

REP: WHAT .. that you are right and I am wrong or they are wrong.
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You know about a case of injustice and it is the reponsibility of a leader to represent better value system .. otherwise your game is no different than that of business man.

gaz1 · #27 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dkv

The theory of Evolution being propagated by Biologists is irrational and goes against the stability of countries.
The theory is blasphemous to many religions.
It encourages people to understand themselves as gene carriers which is against the moder democratic principles...
It is irrational because it fails to explain human behaviour and explains religion as a virus.
If can get angry and punish the religious leader for misguiding people with respect to religion then why are we not punishing these scientists for misguiding education system (within the context of science)...
THEY ARE CIRUCULATING LIES.
And they should be hanged for encouraging disharmony... and bringing mental afflictions on the people at large.
These are the root causes which lead to terrorist attacks.
We must prevent the next case of violence before it becomes a relaity.
We must hold on rationality which is justified and honorable to all.

We should hold onto rationality by hanging bioligists?

Not sure about that one..

dkv · #28 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 02:47 PM

Ok .
Do not hang but suggest something real.

zerochill · #29 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 03:22 PM

i cant even under stand you. i think your message is geting misinterpreted because no one else can either. please try to put out a clearer message.

Scribbler1 · #30 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dkv

Ok .
Do not hang but suggest something real.

How about this then? You can believe in whatever you like and everyone ELSE will believe as THEY choose.

Everyone gets along and no punishment necessary. Seems real enough to me.

No scientist I am aware of forces anyone to believe in evolution. However, as I alluded to earlier, the old religions had no problem forcing people to see things their way. And in the United States some would love to still have that power.