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Old 09-17-2007, 11:21 AM
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GOD is a Lie .
And you are calling it a joke.
What a shame.
Can science prescribe a way of life ?
IF NO then biologists should be hanged.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:35 AM
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What about chemist and physicist?
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:54 AM
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What about chemist and physicist?

In all seriousness the leading physicists have learned to cooperate with religion. A leading author who used deny GOD ,today writes a book called God created Numbers..
It was not necessary but somehow he admitted a basic fact that he doesnt know everything.

Whereas some of the scientists have gone against the religion. There is nothing which prevents them from denying God. Not only they deny . They declare God as Virus.

All mature prespectives already tend to respect the diversity of knowledge and cultures. But here we find a case which is finding its consistency only if it declares Religion as Virus.
Thats why poked the sentiments of biologists.

Science must take back its theory of mindless gene replication and purposeless existence ... or we will have to deal with the serious political problems in future.

There are enough people who will die for their faith.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:55 PM
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I said current theory of evolution pits science against religion.
No.... various religions are pitting science against religion. Not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution was come to by the scientific method. There is evidence to support it. If the evidence changes, the theory will change as well. Some religions, on the other hand, do not work the same way (while others do).

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Its an exclusive framework from the point of view of Science.
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Science decalre Religion as VIRUS. And it is a serious scientific result if we believe in the current theory of evolution.
No, "science" did not declare religion a virus. And I don't understand what you're trying to say with the second sentence. If you believe the current theory of evolution it most likely means you have educated yourself. Nothing wrong with that.

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Read the science behind The God Delusion or Blind Watchmaker or Devil's Chappel you will actually find a desire to seperate religion and science...
I have never read the God Delusion but it is written by Richard Dawkins who, while a scientist, wrote it also as an atheist and, from what I understand, included his own personal opinions in the book (as would be expected). This does not make it a scientific textbook. The science behind his book is backed up. His opinions, however, are not. They're his opinions. And, of course Dawkins, an atheist, wants to separate science and religion. He believes religion is a crock (as do I) but again... that's his opinion and his book is not a scientific textbook.

The other two I don't know so I can't comment.

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A scientist can not keep his faith with integrity.
In your opinion. I'm sure there are plenty of religious scientists who would agree with you and could probably put forth just as passionate an argument as you do.

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I think life has evolved for Happiness ... and someone is misguiding the whole world.
"I think" is your opinion. People should not be hanged because "you think".
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:56 PM
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Exactly who was it who declared religion a virus?

And the title of this thread reminds me of what the church used to do to scientists a long time ago. In fact, historically the church is responsible for much of the misery and suffering that has plagued the world for centuries. From the crusades to the Spanish Inquisition all the way up to the Salem Witch trials. And of course there are the Islamic terrorists, a REALLY religious bunch there.
And of course we have Pat Robertson over here in the States, a man who never saw a natural disaster he couldn't blame on the gays.

Yup, religion sure does make for a happy happy little world, doesn't it?
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Infact this forum is a joke.
Then why keep coming here? If it is a joke, shall I close your account for you?
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The evolution theory fails to explains suicides.
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This has got to be the most ridiculous "rebuttal" to evolution I've ever heard.
Why not argue "The theory of gravity doesn't explain mass"? Or that the "Atomic theory doesn't explain where atoms come from"? Those are just as ridiculous questions. Evolution doesn't explain that because it doesn't have to. It's not why we have it.

The theory of Evolution is not here to discuss the "why" of human decision making. It merely reports facts through falsifiable testing.

Have you ever heard of "scientific method"?
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:22 PM
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Exactly who was it who declared religion a virus?
REP: A.C.Grayling and Richard Dawkins
Faith is a meme. And it has properties of virus.
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And the title of this thread reminds me of what the church used to do to scientists a long time ago. In fact, historically the church is responsible for much of the misery and suffering that has plagued the world for centuries. From the crusades to the Spanish Inquisition all the way up to the Salem Witch trials. And of course there are the Islamic terrorists, a REALLY religious bunch there.
And of course we have Pat Robertson over here in the States, a man who never saw a natural disaster he couldn't blame on the gays.
REP: If I was there I would not have allowed mistreatment of Scientists ..just as I protest the declaration of faith as virus.

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In all seriousness the leading physicists have learned to cooperate with religion. A leading author who used deny GOD ,today writes a book called God created Numbers..
It was not necessary but somehow he admitted a basic fact that he doesnt know everything.
That's wonderful. That being said, just because he changed his mind doesn't mean that a god suddenly exists. He doesn't know everything. And what does this have to do with biologists being hanged for the theory of evolution?

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Whereas some of the scientists have gone against the religion. There is nothing which prevents them from denying God. Not only they deny . They declare God as Virus.
They should be prevented from denying god now? If people were prevented from denying god, asking questions about existence, and doing research into the answers to those questions then human beings would never have EVOLVED into something more intelligent. Or.. they would have.. just much more slowly.. since you can try to "prevent" people from denying or questioning god but it usually doesn't work very well. And again I haven't seen the latest scientific journal but I'm sure that the front page article isn't about how gods are "viruses".

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All mature prespectives already tend to respect the diversity of knowledge and cultures. But here we find a case which is finding its consistency only if it declares Religion as Virus. Thats why poked the sentiments of biologists.
Again, nobody has said this. I don't know who told you this but they lied.

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Science must take back its theory of mindless gene replication and purposeless existence ... or we will have to deal with the serious political problems in future.
You can't "take back a theory". It is either proven wrong, proven right, or remains a theory. Gene replication is not necessarily "mindless". There is a method to it (there's that old education thing again!). As for a purposeless existence... why does there need to be a purpose? I find the NEED for a purpose to life kind of troubling, myself. But science doesn't claim that there is no purpose to life.

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There are enough people who will die for their faith.
Trust me........ everyone knows this.
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So where do you get the idea that Dawkins should:

A. Be made to represent all of the biological community? (Can I conclude that catholic priests that engage in certain scandalous acts represent all of a certain community as well?)
B. Hung for his belief?
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