Inan’Ta

Is it any different than the west spreading democracy by using direct or indirect force?

Xotica

The MB goals and objectives stated in Post #1 are clearly oppositional and anathema to secular democracy.

Brother Oz

Well, yes, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that, the point Inan'ta is making (which I do not agree with) is a completely different one, that the spreading of Islam by force by groups like the Muslim Brotherhood is no morally worse than the activities of the west.

Did they say they liked the Muslim Brotherhood, or that people where they came from liked them, or what?
These sorts of groups are generally more popular with students than anyone else, especially Hizb'u'Tahrir (or however you spell it) which our government still hasn't banned for some ridiculous reason.

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dogmaphobe

I do not have the answer for that, but in recent polls of U.K. Muslims by Pew research, a clear majority favored the criminalization of speech criticalof Islam,and a sizeable minority favored the establishment of Sharia in the U.K.

While goals and methods are two different matters, these polls reveal that there is much support for the former.

MenB

That seems legit.

The Muslim Brotherhood is hugely popular all over the world. However, it's worth noting that even within this enormous organization there are more extreme and less extreme factions. For example, in Israel one of the "moderate" Muslim Brotherhood factions holds seats in the Knesset, while the more extreme factions believe that parttaking in the Israeli political process is in itself an abomination.

Brother Oz

I know, they also had the highest percentage among European Muslims of young people who felt suicide bombing was legitimate and who felt that Osama bin Laden was a good person.

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Inan’Ta

It real doesn’t matter if either one of them is wrong or right, there are plenty of people who deeply believe in spreading democracy by force and there are those who deeply believe in spreading Islam by force and apparently both of them think that they're morally right. And I simply don’t differentiate between the two when it comes to them using excessive force to spread their ideology.

Seven

I've seen worse.

Ghostdog

that I have read on this thread don't surprise me one bit,
and it seems like the relationship of Muslims coming to
gether in some of you eyes make them seem like they are
Extremist/Fundamentalist,or Terrorist.

As a Muslim from the New Kingdom of Islam, which is based
here in the so-called America the Muslim Brotherhood isn't
a joke (or like you call it...shit), and of course the information
on the Muslim Brotherhood site sounds strange to many of you.

With 6.5 billion Muslims worldwide we are entitle to our own
beliefs. Just like you Catholics,Jews,Baptists, and any other
religious groups. The reason why it is strange to most people
in the world is because they never experienced the religion,
and common senses would tell anyone...how can you talk
about anything but never experienced it.

Not all Muslims believe in blowing themselves to pieces, or
skyjacking a plane to die for Allah, and just to show how
confused many of you are.....Allah is GOD in arabic. So
show me where I am suppose to give my life up for GOD
by shooting people, and in return hoping like hell that
someone will shoot back and kill me.

American propagenda has really twisted Islam, and it has
made Muslims to become the most hated group of people
on this earth. The information that I have read on the Muslim
Brotherhood Movement homepage, is nothing like what most
of you is labeling the Brotherhood.

Personally, I don't really give a damn what most of you think
about Islam or Muslims, due to the fact that just as long as
I believe in what I choose to shouldn't matter to none of you,
and believe me you can live your life without me worrying
about your business.

The Muslim Brotherhood homepage was created for those
who believe in Islam, and those who don't believe in Islam
that's on them. Talking (Bashing) about religion isn't my
thing, but I had to comment after reading so many denial
posters, and my comment here is a onetime post because
subject needed to be understood more plainer.

Xotica

Concise and seemingly unambiguous. How would you interpret this declaration?