Zero

no, i said that they would have been if they were descendants of jesus

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iTaliAN_ICe

They were probably Arabic or Semitic if they existed, I'd think.

Agrippina

"Gnosticism:
a prominent heretical movement of the 2nd-century Christian Church, partly of pre-Christian origin. Gnostic doctrine taught that the world was created and ruled by a lesser divinity, the demiurge, and that Christ was an emissary of the remote supreme divine being, esoteric knowledge (gnosis) of whom enabled the redemption of the human spirit."
"demiurge
a being responsible for the creation of the universe, in particular
• (in Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world.
• (in Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual."


When man first started questioning the naturl phenomena around him, such as eclipses, where the sun went at night, and why floods and earthquakes happened, in the absence of the knowledge of his world that science has given us over 5000 years, the only explanations that the elders could come up with was that "the gods did it". Different societies had different gods. there were in Egypt hundreds of gods, a god to explain everything and a different one for every phenomenon, you there fore a god of the sun - Ra and Amon the sun disk and the god of the underworld and the god of rain and the god of fertility, etc. To appease these gods and make them word for you, people sacrificed animals of various sorts. Because their livestock was valuable to them, the sacrifice of a goat or a lamb was a great expense so the god had to have power. There is even evidence of children having been sacrificed in ancient Carthage.
The Jewish people came along and discovered that circumcision helped with the problem of infection in the hot desert climate, you can imagine hot sweaty desert air and irregular bathing, so in order to get people to lop off a piece of their newborn sons, the elders appointed special people to do the job and gave them the title of priest (rabbi) then told the people, the unseen god who must is not named ordained it. Then there was obedience. Over time the priests discovered that they could get people to do just about anything if they said, God told me to tell you to do it. and so the myth of a god who could see everything and ordered everything and was the reason for everything was born.
That is the simple, short version of the origins. I hope that helps.

Zero

yea didnt mean black exactly, i just meant that they were all white kings, Jesus was A dark Olive skinned man so definitly he looked more middle eastern or north african then ted nugent like

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Agrippina

Therefore if you extrapolate on the above definitions using the "a" meaning "absence of"
"agnostic" means absence of belief in a supreme being.
It does ot mean absence of belief, it is merely absence of belief in a supreme being, whereas atheism, is absence of belief in a theist theory.
Complicated? Not really. If you are agnostic, you don't believe in God you merely believe in something but not God. If you are an atheist, you do not believe in any theory of a supernatural explanation of natural phenomena.

Zero

i wouldnt put it like that, i believe in the possibilty of god, Just not a god of myths and religions, i think if there is a god, and he wanted us to live a certain way he would tell us, not in an ancient book written by man, i think if he exists he put into us what he wants of us, like the ten commandments, based on Hammurabi's code of laws for babylon, are common sense, they are things we know are wrong, and we shouldnt do. If god does exist, he wouldnt have human qualities like vanity and jealousy, he wouldnt require our constant attention and worship, or ten percent of our earnings for tithe. he would expect of us what he made of us. I doubt he gave us this amazing brain, of which weve barely tapped the possibilities, to constantly study him and only him. Also to think were special out of the billions of planet that he created is definitly a human characteristic

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Agrippina

The agnostic definition is not mine - it's the dictionary one and the one generally accepted. In ordinary people it's come to mean what you say, a sort of belief in a something that organises things.
The ten commandments were based on the standard laws of the time, a combination of various codes of things you could get punished for. Hammurabi did indeed write the first legal code, some time in the 18th century BC and the Jews were in the desert it is thought around the time of Ramses II therefore the 13th century BC so all laws were based on that code and subsequently most of the laws we still abide by today.
If you study evolution, you can see where we came from. I have a very interesting text that I have to edit. I will ask the author if I can let you have a copy then I will tell you where to find it. Just remind in about a month or so. Right now I have to cram for exams so I haven't time to do any other reading. This is a fascinating subject. When you put it in perspective you can see how the whole religion thing came about and it makes sense.