[quote=top gun;43863]Now that's what this threads about!
As you said when creationist start making impossible things up like dinosaurs on the ark things that sceince can absolutely disprove.WELL?
However, the Big Bang theory is based on an explosion in space soo, to have an explosion you need energy and matter, and since space is a vacum, ergo the "BIG BANG THEORY" can be "DISPROVEN" based on sceintific law.
That is unless someone were to have "BLIND FAITH" in the big bang theory, disreguard the laws of sceince and physics.
And you are right back to square one

The theory of the Big Bang includes that no energy was created, if I have got it right (I am not an expert at all though).
The nothing has to put it bluntly just separated into a negative and a positive force that in sum are nothing. But due to separation of plus and minus both keep on existing. If the universe should collapse one day again, it will eventually simply disappear again, as the equation resolves to nothing again.

The weird point comes when its suggested why the nothing seperated into plus and minus. And its said, it could have been caused by some sort of anomalic fluctuation. But thats all very abstract you have to know.

But you are right, the Big Bang theory can be disproven by scientific means. It also has some problematic points, but no better theory with less flaws has been found for now, so the Big Bang theory is still the best we have yet. Thats why I support it, but I won't die for it, if it falls, I will be glad to have a new and better theory. No problem here.

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Slarti, you're right here. There's actually a lot of misconceptions on The Big Bang. My favorite on is that it was sort kind of grand explosion. The most common picture people seem to have is matter flying from a single point (an explosion). That would say that the matter is moving while space itself held still. However, it's more like the opposite - the matter is all actually standing still while space itself expands - dragging the matter with it.

The general analogy for this is having a series of paperclips on a rubber band. As the rubber band is stretched, the paperclips appear to move away from one another, though they are in fact holding still . Similarly, galaxies hold still more or less (that is to say, there are small movements due to gravitational interactions) while they are carried by the expanding universe.

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[quote=Slartibartfas;44270]Ain't to many christians out here comitting suicide either over the church.
And my theory is that it is said that in every legend handed down from generation to generation ther is truth.
However this big bang theory is in fact a lot younger than Christianity.
And evolution,is not realy that old either.
Of the two evolution in all truth can not be disproven,after all to say human's don't evolve would put the human race back from this technological age in which we live.
However to get here there had to be a desinor someone had to have the blueprint.
That is unless all things sceintific can be explained by accidents.

Pope John Paul II put out an encyclical (thats an essay from the pope for those of you who dont know) called fides et ratio-Faith and Reason.In it he said that "faith and reason are the two wings upon which humanity soars to the contemplation of the truth" Science tells us how something happens,and religion attempts to answer why.In terms of evolution that makes both macro,and micro evolution possible.

If we make the not so implausible assumption that the creation story of Genesis serves as a metaphor,and discount all the details of seven days etc etc we can see that God created the world,not directly,but by allowing the earth to form and having created life,allowed it to multiply and flourish and indeed evolve until he was needed by a species that had a chance of understanding him.

I say this as a member of the Catholic church who believes that evolution can be true.But that said there HAS to be someting else to it.Atoms do not spontaneously arrange themselves into molocules,molocules into chemicals,chemicals into Dna and into cells and therefore life.Blind science alone,or blind faith alone cannot lead us.It is only together that they solve the world's mysteries.

The interesting thing is that these theories have never been proven. They are theories, and theories are essentially educated guesses. The problem with a theory is that new theories are constantly being formed that disprove old theories. Religion can never be proved. That's why it's a matter of human faith, in which those who believe in God or in another/multiple all-powerful being/s, put their trust and their commitment. I am a God-fearing man, and I choose not to believe that humans evolved from primates. If man is descendant from primates, why aren't primates still giving birth to humans and/or vice versa?

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I too beleive in God, and as far as Darwin is concerned who cares.
I beleive that everyday in every generation humans evolve.
As far as how it all started I only have faith that God was involved in the designing of the universe.
How it worked, I have no idea, how it works today, I have no idea.
But we are here, and faith in God is something that nobody can take from you.

Your mind works within the limitations and set boundaries of ideas...

Everybody knows that.

At present humans only use 10% of their brain, what if that were to change?
Would the limitations,and boundaries be the same?