Since birth humans observe beginnings and ends to all things. To us all things are finite. Therefore, it is difficult for most people to envision the possibility that matter and energy have always existed...one possible explanation for the fact that there is no creator necessary. Matter and energy cannot be destroyed (or created), it can only be changed from one to the other.

Air, no matter how thin, is matter (C02, N2, O2, etc.).

That is what I have been trying to say,but unfornuatly I have no idea how this was acheived witch would bring me and some other people like me back to the question of Blind Faith.

Your post are relevent to the present not the begining.
To say that there have always been matter and energy could be based on the same faith that God has always existed could it not?
Air as you have said, no matter how thin is matter, but in the begining can the evolutionist come up with iron clad proof that air was here?
I think not it, is my beleif that evolutionist beleive therefore have faith in a process they can not logically prove.
Therfore are they not just like the religious people of faith???

The problem with humans is they think everything has a meaning. However, some events just happen without any meaning at all. People like to think that everything or everyone behaves like them. They even practice this habit when interacting with others;some get disappointed when a person doesn't do what they expected them to do. The same thing with discussions about evolution-we like to think that the big bang or our existence here has a meaning. That's why early people ended up believing in a supernatural being in order to find purpose to their existence

So you can beleive a big bang just happened to start our existence but you in fact still have no proof that this big bang just happen to happen.
So why critisise people like me who happen to beleive in God,
I'll go one step father I beleive God had a hand in evolution, but evolution does exist, but to say evolution exist without a designer WELL?
It would be kinda like showing you a blank canvas and saying I painted this picture I just didn't use any paint.
It is my beleif that God and evolution work hand in hand.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW???

[quote=top gun;40191]Of course presluc... Religion and Evolution can be compatible.

All one has to do is become a Creationist. Then when little things like no dinosaurs in the Bible come up you can just insert them. Where the Bible says the world is flat you just say... they mean flat in a circular sort of way... and all is explained.

Personally I'd go with the Scientology explanation if I were you. Adding the space creatures makes the whole religion thing really POP with excitement![/QUOTES
True the bible may have it's flaws after all it was written by men not God.
But tell me, Top Gun where did this big bang come from perhaps it was lazer cannon from one of the sceintologist little grren men, perhaps a star let a fart no the stars were made because of the big bang, and another thing how do you non beleivers know it was a big bang, maybe it was only a small whisper after all sound was not around before the "big bang",or was it?
So have you proven to me this great differance between people who beleive in God but have no proof,and the nonbeleivers who beleive in the "BIG BANG " THEORY BUT AGAIN HAVE NO REAL PROOF.Just the fact they beleive in something, and to beleive one must have faith and faith without proof is what reserved for people who beleive in God or has any non beleivers got actual ironclad proof or just a theory?
I still beleive evolution and God or a supreme being if you will brought this together to create what this earth, what this universe is
Don't ask me how or don't ask me to explain it that is what I belive.
To me it would seem more logical to seek out new information than clinging to old ideas only to say "your wrong I'm right". that's coming from both sides you know thus leaving another generation more divided and sometimes confused.

They sure are compatible, IMO.

Here is a very interesting essay. It is written by a believer in Christianity, but I feel it is very well written -- Evolution Science and Creation Theology

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dude i wasn't criticising. i was speaking in general that humans find it difficult to accept that sometimes things happen without any reason. of course i have no problem with you believing in god.

i presume that we are talking about the same creator here, the god we normally find in the bible and in koran. but if your god is what other people refer to as pure energy that started the big bang then i can't really consider it as god or creator let alone find meaning in it.

evolution happens, not exists, because there is a need to change and to improve dealing with the ever changing environment, otherwise species wont survive. if you say someone or something has orchestrated the whole evolution process then i believe it's not evolution at all but creation. yes i say evolution happens without a designer because it's not a canvass.

[quote=presluc;40201]Arguments like these tend to very circular. It helps to define some terms. What would your definition of god be? The Abrahamic one? The deist one? Some other?