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Old 05-17-2007, 10:43 PM
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I will give him a dollar if he will just go away.
The point here is that, Hell and Heaven comes under the material plane only. Human life is entagled in this cycle. For good deeds he goes to temporary heaven and when the fruits of his actions are exhausted, he comes back to this earth. For the bad deeds he get the fruits in the temporary hell and when the fruits are exhaused he enter the earth. Like wise the souls are under the cycle constantly revolving without any salvation. When Lord comes and gives the secret of coming out of this cycle, no body care and they reject His preaching. Lord comes in human form to preach the divine secret and uplift the human souls.

Lord is impartial and He gives the divine knowledge to all alike including atheist in every generation. He takes the sins of DESERVING devotee on His body and suffer for them to save from this vicious cycle.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:03 AM
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I'll let WEB make the call on that. It seems as if these are complete copy/paste jobs, but eh...
I had a pretty funny exchange with dattaswami on PM's, funny because I think I got a copy-paste answer in my PM and I used the language of his PM to re-ask my question. If I get another copy-paste answer, I think that will pretty much answer my question.

In any case, I think it's cool that you guys are taking the initiative in handling this. In that case, I think that we should enforce whatever you gentleman would like to do with dattaswami.


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Old 05-21-2007, 11:39 AM
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I had a pretty funny exchange with dattaswami on PM's, funny because I think I got a copy-paste answer in my PM and I used the language of his PM to re-ask my question. If I get another copy-paste answer, I think that will pretty much answer my question.

In any case, I think it's cool that you guys are taking the initiative in handling this. In that case, I think that we should enforce whatever you gentleman would like to do with dattaswami.


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The divine knowledge alone can be the proof of the God as per Veda. The exceptional quality of the divine knowledge (Prajnanam) is the spontaneous proof. You can experience the available highest quality of the knowledge and there is no need of any testing procedure for that. How are you selecting the Miss. World? You are experiencing the spontaneous beauty directly and there is no need of instruments to test the beauty. You are selecting the top most beauty in the available competition. If you say that some higher beauty may exist somewhere and some time in this world, the result of the competition can never be declared.

Only ugly sadists may tell like that. Gita says that the possessor of such top most knowledge that can give the most perfect guidance to the souls is God Himself (Jnanitvatmaiva…). The importance of Divine knowledge is only due to the importance of correct guidance in the spiritual path. For this the exhibition of miracle is not required. The exhibition of super power through the miracle is needed only for the low level atheists and to punish the low level devils. When a Police Officer is invited to address the college, he goes in normal civil dress. When he has to deal with criminals, he will be in the Police uniform. Even there, he will send his subordinates in the uniform to deal with the criminals. But he will not send his subordinates in uniform to address the college.

Similarly God comes to preach the Divine knowledge and sends His subordinates to exhibit miracles. Since majority is in the lower strata, the miracles have to be exhibited widely. Hence God gives the Super powers even to devils. The miracles include even the miraculous experiences in the life of any one, which prove the existence of unimaginable God.

Miracles and knowledge are the two requirements of people here in lower and higher levels respectively. Generally God meets directly the requirement of higher level. The liberated souls who are the servants of God generally meet the requirement of lower level.
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