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Old 05-01-2007, 02:51 AM
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Releasing Jesus Christ from thousands of years of the lies of Religion!

Releasing Jesus Christ from thousands of years of the lies of Religion!

This example of religion leading to war / divide is even backed by religions themselves through what they call scripture in even such a book based upon a fundamnet of lies as the Bible.

A couple of thousand years ago a fool took the lies of his religion to the lies of a religion of another nation. That nation had no tolerance for Jesus's religious lies pit against their religious lies so they crucified him. Like they were going to admit they were the liars, or like Jesus and his fellow followers were going to admit they were the liars. Neither side would budge because ignorance is any religions only defense and has been proven so right to this very day!

So those of the religion, that the man who was crucified supported, used the death of the man crucified to justify the slaughter of an entire nation. Thus is a very clear example that religion leads to war and divide. If you can grit your teeth and bear it, look and you will see the name Jesus in the bible giving him credit for initiating the slaughter because of religion and to urge people to follow his example claiming it was love and peace when it is obvious his example lead to the slaughter of an entire nation and how many other lives lost in the process of the attacking armies as well.

They, after slaughtering the Roman empire justified it over the life of Jesus, glorified promoting their religion over the slaughter of an entire nation and then brainwashed people to find love and peace in that. Jesus's foolish actions obviously lead so many to their death in a mass slaughter and they find a way to manipulate love or peace out of it. A very clear and famous example of religion leading to war and divide and yet people are brainwashed to follow this as some kind of loving or peaceful example!

The scattered remaining few of that nation were obviously imposed upon to become what is now know as Roman Catholic. Likely in that day and age it was either do it or die! Think about it, they come in and physically slaughter all supporters of a religion, then you expect them to say oh you can keep on believing your religion? It is supported these people had no choice but to become roman catholic or die by how suddenly after that slaughter no more worshipping of their so called Roman gods etc. continued.

How is it that the man who was fool enough to bring the lies of his religion to the lies of another religion thus creating a war over religion thousands of years ago anything to worship or any kind of example to follow? It is obviously sick of anyone to follow such example that has proven to lead to such bloodshed back then, and then for thousands of years of war and divide to come right to this very day!

Do you just worship slaughtering people unless they follow your religion? And if those of your religion become slaughtered by non religious then it is made out to be such things as a holocaust? Religion is obviously so sick and disgusting because for thousands of years of documented evidence it has lead the globe to war and divide. It is really very sad people still follow such a primitive failure as religion. Let alone there is factual evidence that proves every religion is based upon a fundament of lies fabricated as truth and belief aside from religion proving to lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years.

In days of recent if non-religious people do such as slaughter so many religious people, they call it such things as a holocaust and seek retribution on those who slaughtered many people. But it is something obviously to worship and follow to the ignorance of followers of religion in example if followers of a religion slaughter those of another religion! That was obviously a holocaust but yet it is not made out to be such by those who are religious, instead it gets worshiped and is sickly twisted into some demented example of love and peace by the ignorance of those who follow religion.

In this recent holocaust one side was not supporting the following of religion, but just leave it up to the ignorance of religious pushers to make what is into what they would rather it be to continue to take advantage of those in a time of weakness for power and control over the many with such brainwashing B.S. = greed at work! If both sides are religious then it is not a holocaust, but if one side is not religious then it is a holocaust according to the followers of religion Otherwise the slaughter of the roman empire obviously would have been recognized every bit of a holocaust as the one that recently took place. But hey ignorance factually is religions only defense.

The holocaust slaughter that took place thousands of years ago is every bit as equally an outrage as the recent holocaust. All those poor lives that died thanks to the ignorance of religion. They are even going so far to take away freedom of speech in Europe by making it illegal to deny the holocaust and yet these same poeple are ok that there is religion worshipping the blood thirsty holocaust of 2000 years ago! This is an outrage!

Jesus Christ supported the following of lies (religion) that lead to the slaughter of an entire nation. Rome fell and is documented even in religious scripture. People now rejoice over such a slaughter that was sickly used to glorify religion so blindly right to this very day! Thousands of years ago when this happened, instead of people admitting what they just witnessed was in fact a war started by religion / was obvious proof that religion creates war and divide, the ignorant / the greedy managed to take advantage of the slaughter in desperately salvaging a delusion that it was in any way an example to follow to glorify their religion so they could continue to take advantage of the fools who followed and for thousands of years of more blinded fools to come. Where is the justice in making illegal the denial of that slaughter of 2000 years ago, let alone all the slaughters of thousands of years since thanks to the lies and ignorance of religion?

Jesus died in vane. His name since has been dragged through the mud for thousands of years with lies fabricated as truth and belief to glorify something proven beyond a shadow of doubt at the time he died (the slaughter) to lead us to war and divide for thousands of years to come. He was a man, and made out to be a fool by the very religion he supported with such garbage as what leads to the slaughter of an entire nation is something to follow. There is no excuse, no reason! There is only ignorance in the defense of any religion because greed doesn't care if you die as long as it gets what it wants! Greed motivates such lies, and those who support such greed will preech to you anything to keep taking advantage of you with lies fabricated as truth and belief.

Ok, now a look at more modern happenings.

Take a look at the Middle East in days of now, still religious wars and divides being televised. Such ignorance of the delusions of some even going so far as to claim they are the special chosen ones of the lie called god. Well doesn't that lie just fuel the fire of those so ignorantly supporting other religions, let alone such lies anger people who want nothing to do with religion because it has proven to be disgusting as lies generally are in every way especially when such lies prove to lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years.

Meanwhile both sides are claiming this lie called god is on their side. So let's just pretend for a second, just a second, fathom the thought, and yes I know it is hard since god has been proven with factual evidence not to exist, lets just try and fathom for a second that it does just so I can share my point of these religions being so ignorant. (ignorance is religions only defense) Ok so here for a second we stoop to the level of those who follow religion and pretend it exists. Both sides are claiming god is on their side. Both are claiming that their religion is the truth. So both sides support that this so called god obviously wants them to win by slaughtering one another and yet both sides claim god is good, god is the all mighty, god is the one who shares the goodness of example, and god is on their side.

So it is obvious that either A) one of the two religions is a lie (which is grounds for war between the two religions) or b) both religions are lies.

Well I got c) for you and c) is in the word "fact" and the fact is every religion is based upon a fundament of lies fabricated as truth and belief so the greedy can take advantage of those in a time of weakness for power and control over the many who follow such lies and they obviously don't care about everyone who is killed or suffers for it because they worship it. Again greed doesn't care what happens to you as long as greed gets what it wants.

So being both sides are claiming god is on their side and yet they are slaughtering one another??? What kind of peaceful or love message is that? This is something you want to worship? Something that religion proves itself through this example even wants you to mass murder each other? That is something worth worshipping or even believing it exists in the first place?

Sure, we have the queen of England Dec. 25 saying by supporting religion you will help restore peace. Thousands of years prove her seriously mistaken for claiming such an obvious lie because for thousands of years people have been supporting religion and it has lead us to war and divide for thousands of years in mass mega multiple ways from individual throughout international levels.

What kind of sick demented twisted fool can keep on following what has proven to lead to war and divide for thousands of years? Are you that fool? A sleeping idiot that was taken advantage of by such lies in the first place in their time of weakness so the greedy and the selfish can have control over the many in each individuals persons time of weakness is that kind of fool. Again if you are religious what was your time of weakness: Were you a baby? Were you physically attracted to someone walking into a religious building? Were you homeless? Were you starving? Did you just get out of jail? Did you just murder someone? Were you lonely? Did you beat your wife? Did your wife beat you? etc...

Yes religion preys on those in a time of weakness, and then uses your time of weakness to glorify religion.

For example, they use starving children around the globe to promote religion.

We use what people refer to as the food bank or food drives to help the hungry from the general public who donate. From the food bank, some religious places get a portion of that food to use to promote their religion by taking advantage of the hungry in their time of weakness for the desperate attempt of glorifying religion.

What about government funded homeless shelters? Religion has wasted no time taking advantage of government money to promote religion by taking advantage of the homeless to glorify religion.

If you are going to help starving children, then why would you take advantage of them to glorify your religion? You want people to think your religion is "The Religion" so you will desperately find new ways to promote your religion because you want people to think you are not a phony liar. You seem to think the more people taken by the lies you follow means you are any less a liar even if it means taking advantage of starving children to do it. Don't deny it, I see it on T.V. And it angers me very much. When I see organizations that are not using children to promote religion, I applaud them Bravo, at least they are not using starving children for promotion, they are just there to help starving children!

I can understand that people now who preach such lies do not have the guts to admit what they preach is lies to begin with so they will ignore any facts proving them a liar, they will desperately attempt to say anything but face the facts because they know you can't pit truths against facts because truths are lies with a mask on, hence the word truth is not the word fact nor does it share it's meaning.

It is kind of like the matrix reloaded when the main character (Neo?) says to his mentor (Morpheus?) the prophecy is a lie. Right then and there you see Morpheus deny it right away because he too was manipulated by lies fabricated as truth and belief in his time of weakness and preached it to everyone. Right then and there you realize this guy believed something that was a lie to begin with. Then I myself thought when he denied it, about all the people who would see him for the fool he was played for and in turn played them for. I saw that people would likely refer to him as a joke for leading them with such nonsense about a prophecy. I know this is just a movie but the relevance is. I understand it will take great people of great courage to step up and admit that they too have been played the fool and in being played turned to playing others by following such lies to begin with.

I know generations of families have been taken advantage of by such lies and do not want to admit their bloodlines of generations let alone themselves were played for fools by such lies as religion that have factually lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years. So there is ignorance, left for the selfish and the weak who continue to place the lies they follow over the well being of the life on the planet / the well being of their own children. Ignorance is religions only defense. It will take allot of courage for people to admit they too were taken advantage of by such lies and like a plague spread such lies without even considering that what they follow are lies to begin with and so I am here to help guide you out of this mess because I am very confndent of my abiltity to be here for you in helping us all put the mess called religion behind us / throw religion in the garbage where it belongs!

con't ... part 2 ...

David Jeffrey Spetch
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:52 AM
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con't ... part 2 ...

I love being here for you. If I didn't care I wouldn't give a hoot but since I do care for and love the world around me I fight so hard to help the world come to unity by ridding ourselves of such disgusting lies as religion that has proven to lead us to war and divide for thousands of years.

Have you learned anything yet or are you just as primitive / ignorant as those thousands of years before you?

The choice is yours but I side with the coming of global unity myself, don't you? Or don't you care? Will you keep letting preachers manipulate you with lies so you can continue to give them all that much more power and the control over those who are brainwashed by the lies / vacant un backed claims they present?

Think about it, not one person of any religion has any facts backing the fundaments of their religion. Think about it, they only have lies fabricated to what they refer to you as truth and belief and having faith in the school of factually vacant un backed claims they feed you. (religious fundament is the lie of how we got here)

Again here is the factual evidence proving the fundaments of every religion (the fundaments of any religion is the lie made up about what is responsible for us existing) are based upon lies fabricated as truth and belief. Factual evidence proving there is no such thing as the gods or a god.

Ok, for thousands of years such blind humans have been making such claims of there be a god. Ok and the factual evidence proving the existence is? There is none backing the claim that this so called god exists let alone created anything let alone everything. Claiming such as we exist is proof god exists is yet another vacant un backed claim. Proof the boogieman exists is that we exist is the exact same un backed vacant claim. Proof a marshmallow created everything is that we exist is the same vacant un backed claim. Absolutely not one shred of factual evidence backing such a lie in the form of a vacant un backed claim there be a so called god, not one. Don't tell me you have drown yourself in so much ignorance within a manifest of lies you haven't even thought about why there is not one fact supporting the fundament of the religious lies you follow?

The story of Adam and eve is a sick joke. Yeah this so-called good guy (they make the lie god out to be a good guy and then they made up another lie and called it Satan to be the bad guy) ok this so-called good guy leaves the ripest and juiciest tree of fruit in their garden. But then says don't you dare eat the fruit. If you think about it that is like placing a chunk of liver in front of your baby child, and also placing a bowl of pudding in front of your baby child and telling your baby "If you touch the pudding I'll leave you and you'll never see me again" Doing such is obviously an act of cruelty to begin with. So it is obvious people who worship such a lie worships acts of cruelty (proof of that is thousands of years of war and divide as well) and yet make this lie god out to be all good and giving and that is the excuse they give you of that the reason why you never see this lie called god or in other words that there is no such factual evidence supporting such thing as a god exists! let you actually believe by such examples that this lie, so called god, is loving or caring? What kind of a parent would never let their own child see them again for eating pudding when they know babies generally would prefer pudding over a chunk of liver? I feel so bad for so many of you having been taken advantage of by such lies of any religion. But I remain strong for you, and I do not lose hope for you, there is hope for you yet no matter how many people you brought into the lies you follow! You only betray them by allowing them to continue to follow what facts prove are lies to begin with!

Now here is the factual evidence now available for you all proving beyond a shadow of doubt with factual evidence there is no such thing as a god, and proving what factually is responsible for the very existence we now inhabit as well everything that exists around us and that factual evidence is quite simply "energy matter and time."

Yes energy factually exists. Matter factually exists. Time factually exists. It is a proven fact that for anything to first come to be there must be first energy matter and time to recreate energy and matter. Everything that we are / surrounds us that exists factually is proven to consists of energy matter and time.

To the fact that it takes energy matter and time to recreate energy and matter, is factual evidence proving that energy matter and time "always" was.

If you for one second are going to attempt to practice ignorance to claim what I share is not factual evidence then you will obviously have no problem sharing one "factual" example (not a vacant un backed claim) of energy and matter coming to be without there first be energy matter and time to recreate energy and matter? You can't because the fact is that it takes energy matter and time to recreate energy and matter.

Give one factual example, just one that anything is able to exist (like the lie god) let alone have the ability to create without there first be energy matter and time to re create energy and matter? You cannot even give one example because it is a fact that this what I share with you proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no such thing as a god. At the same time it proves with factual evidence of what is responsible for the creation of everything!

Go ahead then, if you are going to be ready to practice ignorance to vacantly deny what I share be fact in defense of any religion, then quite simply justify your claims that what I share is not fact by even sharing just one factual example. There are billions of examples on this earth alone proving that it takes energy matter and time to recreate energy and matter. There are so many I could never name them all in a thousand lifetimes.

Our future generations deserve better than ignorance which is religions only excuse and if thousands of years is not proof that religion is an absolute failure, then why are we bothering putting murderers behind bars when you support something that has lead to war and divide for thousands of years which is obviously much more of a mass murder than any murderer behind bars is responsible for? This is an outrage, it is unacceptable and I will do everything that I see fit to ensure our future generations do not have to suffer such ignorance that leads to such destruction that religious followers impose on the globe to this very day with thousands of years of proof! A very sad part of all this is so many are so blinded by religious lies they only believe the garbage their preachers feed them, the ones who have power and control over the many of the religion. That is greed making you think one thing, while you serve the very greed that pulls your strings and you don't even know you serve greed because you are manipulated to think you serve something that doesn't even exist!

Psyche a bunch of people with lies. Then they get all hyped up about it and serve you while thinking they serve something else that you can't even prove exists but you are just such a good liar (one who can mask lies with more lies) that they will believe you anyway because you caught them in a time of weakness. You serving religion are serving generations of con artists. Is this what you want for your children? To have them serve con artists? To have them suffer what has proven to lead to thousands of years of war and divide because you would rather not be strong in admitting you were played for a fool? Our children must suffer for you hiding behind lies because you have supported such lies and would rather keep following such lies then do what is right for generations to come?

Obviously for those who still cling to religion care nothing for thousands of years of proof, for their own selfishness is more important. Somewhere in the near future religion will wind up in the garbage where it belongs, and you will either be remembered as a selfish follower, or someone who had the courage to admit they were played for a fool so future generations do not have to suffer the war and divide religion has proven to lead us to for thousands of years. History will remember you, even if you are already dead, people will know you were ignorant and a follower of lies who continued to betray the globe with religion, or they will remember you for caring what the facts prove!

I also know we can make this occasion some refer to as x-mas something meaningful instead of the promotion of lies that has lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years. We could use such a day in remembrance of a man who died and who's death went in vane for thousands of years until a day came when that mans ruined name thanks to religion, was finally unmasked for what it was. That man in dying showed the world that religion leads to war and divide. That mans death went in vane through thousands of years of war and divide thanks to ignorance supporting the very existance of religion.

I myself now share the information releasing that man's name from thousands of years of betrayal of having his poor name dragged through the mud to suit only the greedy manipulating the weak for power and control over the many! That is at least something meaningful that is not based upon a fundament of lies we can base as learning example when families and friends etc. have that day to be united as a special occasion to celebrate there is a future for us after all!

Sure it is important to have a day, a reason to get people to come together but I'll stand strong against religion using such a day to promote lies that has lead to thousands of years of war and divide.

A day for future generations to remember in days of now and thousands of years before what religion is and where it has proven to lead and not to let the mistake of religion existing ever happen again!

David Jeffrey Spetch
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No man, no woman, no child, no mountain, no volcano, no imaginary characters, nothing should ever be worshipped or deserves to be worshipped period! At best you can respect your environment in reflection of how your environment provides / doesn't provide for you!

The greedy would have you think / believe otherwise because it keeps you coming back to them! It doesn't feed their greedy little pockets to face the facts. Think about it!

The facts are not a religion, you do not have to believe the facts. I could claim you need to consume air to survive as fact and the way religious people are programmed, they could claim even though it is a fact you need to consume air to survive, that they do not believe it and they could merely vaccantly claim that it is not the truth! Do you see the ignorance of the religious even perhaps within you if you are religious? It is up to us to be here for our children, do you want to throw them in thousands of years of proven war and divide thanks to the following of such lies as religion is the question?

One other thing. It almost makes me laugh but it is also sad when I flick the channels and as disgusting as it is to see religious garbage betraying society on television, I watch briefly here and there to see they desperately squirm to keep their followers for their selfishness, because they know someone is out there sharing facts that prove them liars for the religions they preach. It, as painful as it looks for them to put themselves through in such vane feels good to watch them squirm because deep down I see they suspect it won't be long before religion slips through their fingers like water hitting the ground, it is only their ignorance that keeps them in denial because they, like Morpheus off the matrix, do not want to be revealed for being a phony. That is obviously more important to them than the well being of the life on the planet. So watch for a minute or two if you get the chance, if you can bear it, and you will too see for yourself how desperate they are becoming to get you to follow "them" / keep following "them".

They will squirm to say just about anything to avoid facing the facts! It has me feeling quite proud! TLC!

Oh ok, yet one last thing for this article.

a couple thousand years ago:

Idiot 1 "They have the god of this and the god of that and people are following them and giving them money, how do we top this to have people follow us and give us money?"

Idiot 2 "Hmm, we tell them there is only one god and we tell them he is almighty."

Idiot one: "What if they ask to see him?"

Idiot 2 "Hmm, I'll get on that!"

and thus was the birth of yet another religion.

These days it's:

Idiot one "People who we can't brainwash aren't stupid or gullible, I mean they know dinousaurs were here proving the world existed long before man and contradicts the religion so what are we going to do?"

Idiot 2 " That's easy we'll just make up a new religion but keep god in it since that lie makes alot of money and followers"

Now there are so many religions with new lies to desperately attempt to cover up old lies and yet not one fact backing any religious fundmanet. Just think about that for yourselves people!

That religion even still exists makes me literally sick to my stomache!
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:10 AM
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I started reading that, but gave up. It was too hilarious to take seriously. You think the tiny Christian cult slaughtered a huge Empire? Learn some basic history, man!
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:22 PM
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People getting slaughtered over the following of proven lies fabricated as truth and belief for thousands of years is nothing to laugh about. Thanks for sharing yet another obvious example that ignorance is religions only defense!

David Jeffrey Spetch
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:29 PM
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HAHA! I was sure I was going to read something about sharing and ignorance..
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:32 PM
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People getting slaughtered over the following of proven lies fabricated as truth and belief
They weren't. Some Christians got killed, not Romans.
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:27 PM
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What about setting up an altar to God in the United Nations General Assembly inscribed with the words "Ready Whenever You Are" so God could simply manifest Himself before ALL the nations at the same time in a clear message as to Who He is, how he wants to be worshipped and, exactly, how he wants us to behave, perhaps, in the international language of Speranza or in any language of His choice that could be translated by the UN translators since the original attempt at communicating with mankind through the Hebrew folkloric-religious scriptures aka Bible was a bit garbled, undefined and has lost much in the many translations as well as having suffered many "amendments" of suspicious origin?

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