Independent147

I know someone who claims to be a quaker. In fact his entire family claims to be quakers. You know why? Just so that in a draft, there kids cannot be drafted. Because of there religion. I find that to be downright fuckin bullshit. Views, please?

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choclosteve

Most Quakers work hard at doing good and being democratic and peaceful. Nixon was an exception that I do not understand. Most Quakers are quite serious about walking their talk, especially about Thou shalt not kill. Love to have one for a neighbor. They tend to be interested and interesting people, in addition to being do gooders. My daughter and son in law graduated from Quaker Swarthmore, consistently rated best small liberal arts college in the country. This country has been very fortunate to have Quakers from back before our revolution, as they have done a lot to help US secure our rights and liberties. About Quakers, I'd say, "more is better".

Brother Oz

Anyone who claims to be a conscientious objector cannot be drafted. Although in a war, they might be arrested, or forced to work at non-violent parts of the war. In WW2, many conscientious objectors in Britain joined up as nurses and doctors.

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choclosteve

Although not a Quaker, my younger brother was a conscientious objector during the Viet Nam War and did alternative service in an old folks home, and now is finishing up a career as a recreation therapist for the criminally insane. I am very proud of him.

dahermit

If we had a draft that would be a good strategy. If we had a draft you would have a legitimate reason to be outraged. We do not have a draft and it is unlikely that we will have one in the near future. So, why are you so outraged?

If there were to be a draft, my plan is to claim that I am Amish (also, conscientious objectors), to keep from being drafted. Never mind that I am 63 years old, you can't be too careful!

Brother Oz

Wouldn't they be a bit suspicious when you drove up in your car to the recruitment office to tell them that? Better to go for Quaker.

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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s

dahermit

Nope! My neighbors are all Amish. We are on very good terms with them...I'm sure they would lend me a horse and buggy and the clothing for the occasion. I have already grown the beard. However, the US army will have to be very desperate to want to draft 63 year olds; basic training would kill me off.

Independent147

I know there is no draft... now... or foreseeable, but it is possible. I see what you say about them being drafted into positions such as nurses and doctors, and that sounds like a good iddea. However, I dont really like the idea of people faking religious beleifs. It makes a good comedy, but it is moraly incorrect.

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"Love has its sonnets galore. War has its epics in heroic verse. Tragedy its sombre story in measured lines. Baseball has Casey at the Bat." - Albert Spalding

You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. -Al Capone

"There are three things that should never be talked about; politics, religion, and... the Great Pumkin."
-Linus
Pirates ftw! http://www.politicsforumpoliticalwor...uestion-2.html

Brother Oz

I agree. I wouldn't do it, certainly. But how do you know whether they're telling the truth or not?

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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s

dahermit

Being an atheist, I have found it prudent to fake religious beliefs on a few occasions in my own best interest. A job interview, a job training session where the CEO led us in prayer, when in a public place the "under God" ritual is recited. My lack of religious beliefs would remain anonymous if not put on the spot in these situations. Not quite like the reverend Ted Haggard, who by the way is 100% heterosexual now.