A puzzle - Political Forum

Ygorl · 04-11-2007, 01:38 PM

This puzzle fits here. I think we'll see why as people participate.

IF people participate.

Go to the link and follow the instructions. Post your veiws here.

Be Creative

Independent147 · 04-13-2007, 12:31 PM

1st. Part of yin and yang sign , not entirely sure, perhaps it means the molding of ideas?

2nd. Yin and yang symbol. It represents good and evil- in balance. Basically, the balance of the entire world, if not universe.

3rd. An ink splotch, part of one of those phsychology tests.

Ygorl · 04-13-2007, 06:31 PM

And as a sequence what might this say to you ?

This isn't a test or anything. Just a puzzle to see how different people might interpret a series of symbols meanings. I'll give my own interpret after we have a few more participants.

Brother Oz · 04-13-2007, 07:03 PM

Yin and Yang doesn't represent good and evil, but rather feminine and masculine, order and chaos, light and dark... things in balance.

As a sequence, I've got to say it doesn't say anything to me.

Independent147 · 04-13-2007, 10:14 PM

Sorry, Bro Oz, I didn't really know.

It says: IS THIS THE FUCKIN GOVERNMENT TRYIN TO GIVE ME ANOTHER FUCKIN PHSYCOLOGY TEST AND SOMEHOW MAKE ME PAY MORE TAXES?!?!
lol, jk, it means nothing inparticular... maybe a skitsophrenic person decided to make a puzzle?

Ygorl · 04-16-2007, 11:38 AM

Here's my interpret of the puzzle:

1. Number one could represent conservative idealogy. Ultra-conservative idealogy has clear boundaries in the way it veiws good and evil, right and wrong, moral and immoral, foul and fair, ethical and unethical. Black and white. Clear boundaries. It's either this way or it's that way.

2. Number two could represent independant ideology. Independant ideology ALSO has clear boundaries in the way it veiws good and evil, right and wrong, moral and immoral, foul and fair, ethical and unethical. However, it recognizes that some good can seem evil and some evil can seem GOOD under certain circumstances.

3. Number three could represent liberal ideology. Liberal ideology has NO clear boundaries about how it veiws good and evil, right and wrong, moral and immoral, foul and fair, ethical and unethical. Everything falls into a kind of "shades of gray" area. Everything is relative and "smudgy". How we FEEL takes precedence over evidence, history or even laws. Laws which can change with the "wind" of our "feelings".

It's really about balance. Balancing freedoms and rights, good and bad, moral and immoral, foul and fair, ethical and unethical. Humans have been trying to create a structure to keep a somewhat orderly society and civilization since they realized that they function better when working together.

I came up with this idea for using these graphics to illustrate MY views of the differences between both extremes. On one side, we have the militant orderlies, where we all live like soldiers training in bootcamp. On the other side, we have the many variations of anarchy, where anyone can do anything they like to at any time. Of course these are the two, far ends of this spectrum. The middle is the one that we're all here arguing about. Some feel the middle leans more this way, others feel the middle leans more THAT way.

Will we ever find the "perfect" blend that we will all accept and live with ? Or is conflict an innate part of our nature ? Maybe we HAVE found the perfect blend, but will continue battling ourselves (that means each other) about whether or not we're at the "perfect blend" or not. These "battles" may degrade organized systems periodically and cause complete and total "resets" ? That's what history seems to show us. Which brings to mind "those who don't know history are condemned to repeat it".

An interesting read on the origins of yin and yang:

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM]YIN/YANG

The essentials of the yin-yang school are as follows: the universe is run by a single principle, the Tao, or Great Ultimate. This principle is divided into two opposite principles, or two principles which oppose one another in their actions, yin and yang. All the opposites one perceives in the universe can be reduced to one of the opposite forces. The yin and yang accomplish changes in the universe through the five material agents, or wu hsing , which both produce one another and overcome one another. All change in the universe can be explained by the workings of yin and yang and the progress of the five material agents as they either produce one another or overcome one another. Yin-yang and the five agents are, I need to stress, a universal explanatory principle. All phenomena can be understood using yin-yang and the five agents: the movements of the stars, the workings of the body, the nature of foods, the qualities of music, the ethical qualities of humans, the progress of time, the operations of government, and even the nature of historical change. All things follow this order so that all things can be related to one another in some way: one can use the stars to determine what kind of policy to pursue in government, for instance.

The yin and yang represent all the opposite principles one finds in the universe. Under yang are the principles of maleness, the sun, creation, heat, light, Heaven, dominance, and so on, and under yin are the principles of femaleness, the moon, completion, cold, darkness, material forms, submission, and so on. Each of these opposites produce the other: Heaven creates the ideas of things under yang, the earth produces their material forms under yin, and vice versa; creation occurs under the principle of yang, the completion of the created thing occurs under yin, and vice versa, and so on. This production of yin from yang and yang from yin occurs cyclically and constantly, so that no one principle continually dominates the other or determines the other. All opposites that one experiences—health and sickness, wealth and poverty, power and submission—can be explained in reference to the temporary dominance of one principle over the other. Since no one principle dominates eternally, that means that all conditions are subject to change into their opposites.

This cyclical nature of yin and yang, the opposing forces of change in the universe, mean several things. First, that all phenomena change into their opposites in an eternal cycle of reversal. Second, since the one principle produces the other, all phenomena have within them the seeds of their opposite state, that is, sickness has the seeds of health, health contains the seeds of sickness, wealth contains the seeds of poverty, etc. Third, even though an opposite may not be seen to be present, since one principle produces the other, no phenomenon is completely devoid of its opposite state. One is never really healthy since health contains the principle of its opposite, sickness. This is called "presence in absence."

Independent147 · 04-16-2007, 06:57 PM

Dude, you should be a phsycologist! Are you...?

Ygorl · 04-17-2007, 12:26 PM

No, I'm not a psychologist. I'm as nutty as one though, so understand well most of the principles behind their study.

Independent147 · 04-17-2007, 05:09 PM

That makes sense!

lol