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Old 05-02-2008, 03:51 PM
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The logic train for Darwinism to translate to eugenics was:

Darwin touted natural selection of the best to the best, illustrating the weakest or slowest would be eaten or die or not be chosen as a mate. Therefore those creatures would not pass on its genetic material to the next generation.
Isn't it interesting that the modern evolution theory considers variety to be a very important factor of being "the fittest". Single features that are today the best can be tomorrow a disadvantage. That does not mean that it gets eliminated necessarily but that those variations with other features take over the majority. A large variety saves species from an early doom and make them flexible in an ever changing world.

There are not only two categories of genes, those that enable a living being to survive and those that let it die. A very large number belongs to the sort: doesn't matter; currently. Tomorrow it can be already an advantage again.

Many of the parasites of yesterday have also a beneficial aspects that often was not visible at Darwins age. In fact its a very hard to draw any sort of clear line in these regards between categories.


The misconcept of eugenics based on the wrong assumption that a single list of features would be the optimum while the rest should die out. A basic misconception that also runs against what evolution theory tells us today.

Apart from that, evolution tells us nothing about ethic or morality. Science just describes and makes prediction. That leads to the inherent responsability of those who use science to use it according to ethic and moral standards. Many have misused science for immoral and unethical things, but science is not alone in this, even religion which includes a large set of ethic and moral rules has been misused as bad and misused as legitimation of the worst kind of crimes.

Science is just the tool. You can hurt another person with a hammer, or you can build a cupboard with its help. That doesn't make science bad, its just that what those who use it are.
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:57 AM
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I read his Wikipedia article before commenting for a reason Bloodhart. His comments weren't taken out of context. That is exactly what his film is about.





He believes that evolution and by extension science itself is responsible for the horrors of Communism Fascism, eugenics, the Holocaust and even worse Planned Parenthood and atheism. It's funny for someone who thinks that religion is being persecuted he has no problem persecuting atheists by comparing them to mass murder and tyranny. Did you actually watch the movie?
I don't take Wikipedia as a reliable source. i do plan on watching the movie sometime, but if he says all that BS than i would agree that he is an idiot.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:45 AM
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When I said "every review I have read" I was actually not talking about just professional movie critics. People who went to see the screening wrote reviews, TV Guide wrote a review, general movie goers who saw the film wrote reviews.

Every single review I have read from non-fundamentalist viewers has been negative. The only positive reviews I have seen have been from people who, when you read the reviews, you can see have absolutely no knowledge on the subject in the documentary and have swallowed every lie and misleading bit of information presented.

And we're not just talking about content. From what I have heard, the film isn't even done well from a production standpoint.

I will see Expelled when it comes out on DVD and I can rent it from netflix. But I definitely won't spend $10 to go see it in the theatres (is it even still in theatres?)
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