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Old 05-08-2008, 04:58 PM   #41 (permalink)
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From where would you draw the authority to judge God?
The same force from which believers came to the conclusion that God can judge us.
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The same force from which believers came to the conclusion that God can judge us.


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Lol, that was good.
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My thoughts,and my faith are my own.
I choose the path I take, if anyone thinks the same or wishes to walk my path they are welcome .
To those who walk a differant path and beleive differantly I will respect them and their beleifs as long as they in tern respect me and my beleifs.
Well, if there was six billion more people that did the same, things would be a lot better, though questioning a believe should never be looked down upon, for if belief was never questioned the planet would be in turmoil (worse than it is now.)

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Oh and for their record it is difficult for me to trust people that say all of the earth all of the galaxy,all of the universe,and all of the things on it is here because of an accident.
I've never heard anyone say that, but it could be true. Truth is unknown, and maybe unknowable -- almost like a god, I suppose, but without the beard.
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Well, if there was six billion more people that did the same, things would be a lot better, though questioning a believe should never be looked down upon, for if belief was never questioned the planet would be in turmoil (worse than it is now.)



I've never heard anyone say that, but it could be true. Truth is unknown, and maybe unknowable -- almost like a god, I suppose, but without the beard.
To question anything wether it be religion or not is easy.
The problem that I most run into with non beleivers is simple.
They want to question my beleif in a God I can not prove exist, but when I question theorys or unproven staements that is differant although I can not see how,for they are in the same boat they can not prove anything.
God can not be proven to exist
The Big Bang "THEORY" can not be proven it happened since there are no eyewitnes's the non beleivers much like the beleivers have only "theory which in fact is an unproven fact, the non beleivers have faith which is in fact a unproven fact, both have circumstancial evedince at best.
So I guess the best question is {what's the problem}???
However it is still my beleif that faith is stronger than a beleif.

Yes, truth is unknowable much like the big bang only without a spark?

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So you don't know where God's authority comes from then?
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To question anything wether it be religion or not is easy.
The problem that I most run into with non beleivers is simple.
They want to question my beleif in a God I can not prove exist, but when I question theorys or unproven staements that is differant although I can not see how,for they are in the same boat they can not prove anything.
God can not be proven to exist
The Big Bang "THEORY" can not be proven it happened since there are no eyewitnes's
There is nothing wrong with questioning the Big Bang, for it is a "loose" (I guess you could say) theory. When a quantifiable theory is challenged, it may be different and harder to challenge, but not impossible. Science should not be used for belief, but merely a way to turn data into information that is usable. All else is philosophy.

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Yes, truth is unknowable much like the big bang only without a spark?
It all depends. That's my favorite answer, by the way.
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is that there should be more cooperation between evolution sceince and religion.

My example is as follows.
Some religious people walk around and say the bible is perfect, anyone that does not beleif this is going to Hell .
In other words beleive exactly the way I beleive and what I beleive in no exceptions.
Hopefully you have noticed I'm not one of these people in fact I have been critisised by these religious people for my stands on pro abortion and gays.

Yet on the flip side you have the nonbeleivers,atheist saying how can you have faith in something you can not prove existed. All your beleifs, all your fath is wrong beleive exactly the way,and what I beleive in no exceptions.

I have been critisised by the nonbeleivers and atheist too and occasion been the brunt of what was supposed to be humor.
Because of my stand on evolution and God being some how linked and because of my faith in miricles.

So what's differant here?
All I see is a bunch of people pointing fingures at each other and saying you are wrong ,no you are wrong!
Like two kids on a playground.

I'm not saying all religous people are right or wrong.
Neither am I saying all nonbeleivers and atheist are right or wrong either.
Frankly it is not my place to, for I have my own existence to condend with what I choose "and it is faith in God" is my llife nobody has to agree no body has to disagree.
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