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04-30-2008, 06:43 AM
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04-30-2008, 06:44 AM
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i think somethig happened just look up zeitgeist the movie tell me what you think
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04-30-2008, 11:27 AM
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great videos in my opinion. especially the one on religion. so true.
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04-30-2008, 11:42 AM
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Zeitgeist is shit. I watched it a while back and it wasn't much more than I expected: just another "Loose Change"; a bullshit conspiracy video designed to convince weak-minded fools that the government and the "New World Order" are out to get them.
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04-30-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe
Zeitgeist is shit. I watched it a while back and it wasn't much more than I expected: just another "Loose Change"; a bullshit conspiracy video designed to convince weak-minded fools that the government and the "New World Order" are out to get them.
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weak minded? so you dont believe you are weak minded? i'm sure you have some mental conditioning in your brain as well. if you didnt' you would not be so against videos like this. as far as this movies view on religion it was right on. there was nothing false about that. i think the part on religion was very educational, but it's hard to convince the brainwashed religious fanatics of the truth. the other parts also were very interesting.
the government can convince you that everything they say is the truth and fact or near the truth and fact, but as soon as someone rebutes, and shows examples of wrong doing they are called conspiracists. i believe governments are equal when it comes to conspiracy. the government allows you to percieve things how tehy want you to see it. not how it really is. it's pretty much all psychological.
the net has been an excellent source to educate people about the truth. it's just very hard for people to come to terms with certain things that are true because they ahve been conditioned constantly prior to the net. so of course all this new information is spat on. in the case taht 911 was an inside job. does anyone want to beleive it? can governments actually go that far, and be so cold and calulated to kill thousands? i wouldnt think so, perhaps we will never know the truth, but i know for certain i dont know the facts. so i leave it at that.
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04-30-2008, 01:07 PM
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weak minded? so you dont believe you are weak minded? i'm sure you have some mental conditioning in your brain as well. if you didnt' you would not be so against videos like this.
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I'm "against" this movie and the countless others like it because they're chock-full of inaccuracies that their followers blindly accept as fact.
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as far as this movies view on religion it was right on. there was nothing false about that.
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To the contrary, the movie's first section was hugely false. Most of the claims made are based on suspicious anecdotal evidence or on no evidence at all. Check this out: Zeitgeist Challenge
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i think the part on religion was very educational, but it's hard to convince the brainwashed religious fanatics of the truth.
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Heh. In my experiences, those who call religious people "fanatics" tend to be quite fanatical themselves. By the way, I'm an atheist, for what it's worth.
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the government can convince you that everything they say is the truth and fact or near the truth and fact, but as soon as someone rebutes, and shows examples of wrong doing they are called conspiracists. i believe governments are equal when it comes to conspiracy. the government allows you to percieve things how tehy want you to see it. not how it really is. it's pretty much all psychological.
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 Do you see how hypocritical this statement is? Watch, I'm going to take your statement and replace a few words:
"Zeitgeist can convince you that everything they say is the truth and fact or near the truth and fact, but as soon as someone rebutes, and shows examples of wrong doing they are called government sheep. i believe these movies are equal when it comes to conspiracy. Zeitgeist allows you to percieve things how tehy want you to see it. not how it really is. it's pretty much all psychological."
Why do blatant lies become more believable when they are propogated by an internet video?
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the net has been an excellent source to educate people about the truth. it's just very hard for people to come to terms with certain things that are true because they ahve been conditioned constantly prior to the net. so of course all this new information is spat on. in the case taht 911 was an inside job. does anyone want to beleive it? can governments actually go that far, and be so cold and calulated to kill thousands? i wouldnt think so, perhaps we will never know the truth, but i know for certain i dont know the facts. so i leave it at that.
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If you want to know the truth about 9/11, I highly recommend this Popular Mechanics article. 
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04-30-2008, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe
I'm "against" this movie and the countless others like it because they're chock-full of inaccuracies that their followers blindly accept as fact.
i am not saying i agree with this. however it would be good instead of calling something bullshit back it up with proof
To the contrary, the movie's first section was hugely false. Most of the claims made are based on suspicious anecdotal evidence or on no evidence at all. Check this out: Zeitgeist Challenge
first section of what? i dont click links
Heh. In my experiences, those who call religious people "fanatics" tend to be quite fanatical themselves. By the way, I'm an atheist, for what it's worth.
you dont seem very athiest.
 Do you see how hypocritical this statement is? Watch, I'm going to take your statement and replace a few words:
i woudlnt call that hypocrital, i'd call that trying ot be psychologically convincing using stupidity. everything can be debated, and argued, and basically anything can be backed up. however, without these videos clips, i am still aware at the amount of lies the us government feeds us. does not take a rocket scientist to know this.
"Zeitgeist can convince you that everything they say is the truth and fact or near the truth and fact, but as soon as someone rebutes, and shows examples of wrong doing they are called government sheep. i believe these movies are equal when it comes to conspiracy. Zeitgeist allows you to percieve things how tehy want you to see it. not how it really is. it's pretty much all psychological."
as i said, i am not convinced anything is fact because there is nothing that is fact. i've read popular science article, and i've read many things after that article. i have also seen people in government order investigations in regards to 911 popular science has not proven anything. it's an article
Why do blatant lies become more believable when they are propogated by an internet video?
yes, the government does a terrific job not telling the truth and making people believe it.
If you want to know the truth about 9/11, I highly recommend this Popular Mechanics article. 
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in my opinion there has been more suspition in regards to 911 than facts. there seems to be soemthing new arising each day to make a person doubt even more. i myself frown upon the conspiracy nutcases, however i've seen and read a lot that makes me question 911. you dont know the truth. i dont know the truth. bottom line.
as far as teh religion part of the movie i have studied ancient civilization way before this movie. i am familiar with the similarities between the bible and ancient literature.
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04-30-2008, 04:36 PM
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Wallis Budge's translation of Ani's papyrus.
as you will see here there are many similarities between the book of the dead and the bible. it is also possible that jesus did emerge based on the story of horus. there are so many similarities when comparing ancient literature and the bible. its hard for me to believe the bible and jesus was not influenced by it. at least in my opinion.
these are a couple of quotes from the book of the dead. draw your own conclusion or interpret it how you wish, and also research the following god names in order to get a proper idea of who they are or who or what they represent.
about horus
YOU ARE the eldest son of the womb of Nut.
You were begotten by Keb, the Erpat.
You are the lord of the Urrt crown.
You are he whose white crown is lofty.
You are the king (Ati) of gods [and] men.
You have gained possession of the sceptre of rule, and the whip, and the rank and dignity of your divine fathers.
Your heart is expanded with joy, you are in the kingdom of the dead.
Your son Horus is firmly placed on your throne.
You have ascended your throne as the Lord of Tetu, and as the Heq who dwells in Abydos.
Grant to me glory in heaven, and power on earth, and truth-speaking in the divine underworld, and [the power to] sail down the river to Tetu in the form of a living Ba-soul, and [the power to] sail up the river to Abydos in the form of a Benu bird, and [the power to] pass in through and to pass out from, without obstruction, the doors of the lords of the tuat (other world).
Hail, you who open up the way, who act as guides to the roads [in the other World] to perfect souls in the house of Osiris, open you up for him the way, and act you as guides to the roads to the soul of the Osiris, the scribe, the registrary of all the offerings made to the gods, Ani, [whose word is true] with you.
May my soul lift itself up before [Osiris], having been found to have been pure when on earth.
May I come into your presence, lord of the gods.
May I arrive at the Nome of Maati (Truth).
May I rise up on my seat like a god endowed with life.
May I give forth light like the company of the gods who dwell in heaven.
May I become like one of you.
May I lift up my footsteps in the town of Kher-Aha.
May I look on the Sektet boat of the god, Saah, the holy one, as it passes across the sky.
apparently there is a qeustion about the 12 desciples and twelve desciples in regards to horus. this could be where they get the 12 desciples from. these are teh twelve gods
ra, atum, shu, tefnut, geb, nut, isis, nephythys, horus, hathor, hu, sia.
i have studied ancient literature for a very long time, and i am convinced that the idea of jesus and the bible has been linked to early civilization.
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05-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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God created the universe. There is no way the universe was anything but made. Everything has to have a cause. That is a well established fact.
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I'm flabbergasted by how well you've presented your case. I'll call Alister McGrath and tell him you're coming.
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