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04-11-2008, 02:46 PM
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An underlying point, which you may not be aware you made, is that the god of the bible possesses many qualities which we would see as very negative if they were displayed by another human being. We would certainly see them as immoral and unethical, which means that the god of the bible is not "perfect" and therefore fictional.
For example, the god of the bible is a peeping tom. He's always watching everyone, 24/7. He's watching you have sex. He's watching you defecate and urinate. He's watching you blow your nose. He's watching you take a shower. Etc.
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yes God sees all and hears all i can deal with that also if we view this then no Gods not a peeping tom for if we are to do something wrong and we know that our creator is watching us then most likly if we are aware of this then we would not do a wrong deed. So the cocept of God watching everything I do is normal and keeps me in order and when i do good he sees me. However if you tell me that God had a bastard child with his own creation this is something i canot except. And not only that you then say that the bastard child is God??? If God died for our sins then what is the use of judgment day? Why judge everybody else who does not believe that God had a bastard child will just go to hell no need judgement day.How could a virgin who never had a man touch her vagina have God come out of her vagina and touch it. If Jesus is God that means that God had a penis ,how big was it when God was a little boy other men had bigger penies than God. God was a carpenter he couldn't invent a fucking computer he just played with wood. He couldnt even make a boat!! Your telling me that God had an anus he shited, tell me did it smell like roses or shit?? And if Jesus is God tell me who was he praying to when he was on the cross?? "my father why has thou forsaken me" what the hell is this if he knew he was to die for your sins why is he asking why has thou forsaken me?? he sounds puzzled. who was he praying to when the soldiers were looking for him??? satan tempted Jesus to jump off a cliff. NOW NOW TELL ME HOW THE HELL IF GOD CREATED SATAN COULD SATAN TEMPT GOD. KEY WORD TEMPT WHICH MEANS GOD THOUGHT ABOUT SUICIDE AND THEN DECIDED NO GET AWAY FROM ME SATAN????? WHAT???
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04-11-2008, 03:00 PM
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Nash,
Just curious - do you follow a particular religion? If so, which one? If not, why not?
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04-11-2008, 03:07 PM
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Nash,
Just curious - do you follow a particular religion? If so, which one? If not, why not?
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listen you started a thread that Jesus is God Incarnate;irrefutable i have offered a refute rebuttle to this please answer my post please donot try to lead the coversation eleswhere lets stick to the topic.
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04-11-2008, 03:26 PM
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listen you started a thread that Jesus is God Incarnate;irrefutable i have offered a refute rebuttle to this please answer my post please donot try to lead the coversation eleswhere lets stick to the topic.
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I though Santa_Clause started this thread not truth bringer?
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04-11-2008, 03:28 PM
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listen you started a thread that Jesus is God Incarnate;irrefutable
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No, I did not. You might want to look again.
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please donot try to lead the coversation eleswhere lets stick to the topic.
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Why can't you answer a simple question?
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04-11-2008, 03:40 PM
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I though Santa_Clause started this thread not truth bringer?
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yes you are right
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No, I did not. You might want to look again.
yup thanks
Why can't you answer a simple question?
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trying to divert the thread stick on topic answer my post
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04-11-2008, 03:41 PM
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If God died for our sins then what is the use of judgment day? Why judge everybody else who does not believe that God had a bastard child will just go to hell no need judgement day.
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So that whosoever will accept the blood of Christ for their sins and live a life free of any sin in total obedience to Christ through His Word (the Bible) might be saved in the end. And don't let anyone fool you, you have to forsake your sins and live in total obedience to Christ be saved. If you fall away after getting saved, you are in worse off shape then when you started off.
".... For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required:...." Luke 12:43
"MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, ...." - Hosea 4:6
2 Corinthians 6:1 "We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain."
God chooses us but then we have to "Take up" our "cross and follow" HIM (Matt 10:38; Luke 14:27).
Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
2 Peter 2:21-22 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
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who was he praying to when the soldiers were looking for him???
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God can be in multiple places and forms at the same time. Its not really that difficult to comprehend.
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satan tempted Jesus to jump off a cliff. NOW NOW TELL ME HOW THE HELL IF GOD CREATED SATAN COULD SATAN TEMPT GOD. KEY WORD TEMPT WHICH MEANS GOD THOUGHT ABOUT SUICIDE AND THEN DECIDED NO GET AWAY FROM ME SATAN????? WHAT???
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As a man he was subject to temptation.
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04-11-2008, 03:49 PM
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God can be in multiple places and forms at the same time. Its not really that difficult to comprehend.
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i think your missing the point WHY WAS GOD PRAYING TO HIMSELF WHEN HE WAS BY HIMSELF???
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As a man he was subject to temptation.
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So God who created all was subjected to temptation by the satan who by the way he made,so he was tempted by satan . God was tempted by satan???
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04-11-2008, 05:14 PM
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i think your missing the point WHY WAS GOD PRAYING TO HIMSELF WHEN HE WAS BY HIMSELF???
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Jesus became sin. "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." (2Corinthians 5:21) Jesus became one of us in fact He became all of us he took on all the sin that ever was or ever will be, in His own innocent body, to cleanse us, to give us a right standing with God, and to heal us. Everything that makes us fall short of God's perfection was taken at the cross! And that caused him to be separate from God because sin is what separates us from God.
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So God who created all was subjected to temptation by the satan who by the way he made,so he was tempted by satan . God was tempted by satan???
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Yes. All of mankind is subject to temptation. And God became a man, Jesus Christ.
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04-11-2008, 05:15 PM
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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1
"...the Word WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us..." John 1:14
"I and my Father are one." John 10:30
"Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" John 14:9
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, BELIEVED ON in the world, RECEIVED UP into glory." Timothy 3:16
"Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he LAID DOWN HIS LIFE for us..." 1 John 3:16
"And they stoned Stephen, calling upon GOD, and saying, LORD JESUS, receive my spirit." Acts 7:59
"For unto us A CHILD IS BORN, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6
"...CHRIST, who is the IMAGE OF GOD..." II Corinthians 4:4
"...glory of GOD in the FACE OF JESUS CHRIST." II Corinthians 4:6
"GOD...hath in these last days spoken unto us by his SON...who being the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON..." Hebrews 1:1-3
"For in [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Colossians 2:9
"...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US." Matthew 1:23
"The voice of him [John the Baptist] that crieth in the wilderness, PREPARE ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway FOR OUR GOD." Isaiah 40:3
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Its in the Bible as can be seen so obviously above.
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