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Originally Posted by Santa_Claus
Again, skeptics will take the Bible completely out of the context in which it is written. And scientists haven't conclusively proven how the Earth was formed, how old it is, how man came to be.
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I'm not going to spend an hour compiling all the information about the formation of the earth into a post. The information is out there, all you need to is look for it.
As for the contradictions in the bible. They are not taken out of context at all.
I'll do a quick summary of this for you:
Our source material will be the books of Matthew and Luke from the New testament of the bible. Specifically about how and when Jesus was born:
The story according to Matthew:
1) A woman named Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit
2) Joseph thinks Mary cheated on him, and is about to break off their engagement, until the holy spirit appears to him in a dream and tells him not to
3) Mary gives birth to Joshua Ben Josef (Jesus) in Bethlehem
4) Three astrologers (Wise men) saw a bright star in the sky and believed it a sign that the king of the Jews was born, and journeyed westward to Bethlehem to pay tribute.
5) King Herod the Great pretended to help them in order to get information about the boy whom he hoped to eliminate, as he was killing all the born boys at this time. He asked the wise men to return from Bethlehem and tell him what they had found.
6) At Josef's house in Bethlehem the find Jesus and pay tribute. They are warned by a dream, and skip the return to Herod by going a different route back east.
7) Herod still fearful of a child born to rise against him, massacres all the boys under two years old in Bethlehem, but Josef is warned by yet another dream and flees to Egypt with his family before the massacre, and stays there until Herod dies.
Now the story according to Luke:
1) Mary and the mother of John the Baptist are pregnant together, and are said to be related to each other.
2) God sends an angel to Mary and tells her that she will bear gods son
3) There is a great Roman census being taken at this time. Although Joseph lived in Nazareth, as a member of the House of David, he had to journey to Bethlehem in order to be registered.
4) Upon arrival in Bethlehem there is no room in the inn, so they must stay in the manger
5) Angels tell some shepherds of the birth, and the come visit Jesus in the manger.
6) Josef and company then journeyed to Jerusalem to give thanks in the temple, after which they returned north again the home in Galilee.
Ok, do you see the MASSIVE contradictions?
I'll go over one that is not so obvious, and some description makes more apparent:
From historical documents, we know when Herod died, we know when he ruled, and we know a rough time sketch in which Matthew's story could have occurred if you believe the story it tells. King Herod died in 4 B.C. So if we accept Matthews account, Jesus was born some time before Herod died, probably around 6 B.C.
Luke is very specific when informing us that the birth took place in the year of the Augustan census when Cyrenius was governor of Syria. From other ancient sources, we can pinpoint that date at the year 7 A. D.
So one book tells us he was born in ~ 6 B.C., the other tells us he was born in 7 A.D.
Contradiction!!!!
If god was omniscient, he would know that he contradicted himself. This PROVES conclusively that the bible is not divine.