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04-19-2008, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Change
It is very foolish to believe that there is no god.
Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes.
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And that is where you go wrong. Religious beliefs are 100% erroneous superstitions that have no basis in reality.
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04-20-2008, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by libertarian0507
And that is where you go wrong. Religious beliefs are 100% erroneous superstitions that have no basis in reality.
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Not even remotely true. Plenty of evidence in science, Bible prophecy and human experiences to lend the Bible credit.
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04-21-2008, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Santa_Claus
Not even remotely true. Plenty of evidence in science, Bible prophecy and human experiences to lend the Bible credit.
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Chris Hitchens did well with his book "God Is Not Great" have you read it?
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04-21-2008, 04:29 PM
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Chris Hitchens did well with his book "God Is Not Great" have you read it?
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No and I probably shouldn't. Skeptics always take scripture out of context.
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04-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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Skeptics always take scripture out of context.
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Theologians do aswell.
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04-22-2008, 01:38 PM
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Human experience doesnt account as fact. Hindsight is 20/20, which means human experience is often clouded by the here and now. I remember the first time i got into a car accident, small fender bender. i thought i stopped at the stop sign completely, but i didnt, looking back now i see i didnt stop at all. Why, because i had somewhere to go and it skipped me mind.
Human experience can help prove something, but its not the complete picture, you only get a small rough outline of whats really true and what is just a figment of your imagination.
Prophecy, i dont think i should step on this subject. why? because its a laughing joke. the future isnt written in stone, if its is, than wheres free will. if prophecy's are true, than who we are is who god made us, destroying free will.
Prophecy's are broad pictures of the whole truth, taking one broad message and than when something happens someone connects that dots and says the prophecy is true. when in reality the prophecy could have gone either way.
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04-22-2008, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Future Leader
Theologians do aswell.
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Having a theology degree doesn't make one saved.
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04-22-2008, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ResidentAtheist
Prophecy, i dont think i should step on this subject. why? because its a laughing joke. the future isnt written in stone, if its is, than wheres free will. if prophecy's are true, than who we are is who god made us, destroying free will.
Prophecy's are broad pictures of the whole truth, taking one broad message and than when something happens someone connects that dots and says the prophecy is true. when in reality the prophecy could have gone either way.
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Free will still exists because people get to choose whether to accept or reject God.
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"Good intentions are a noble thing, but you have to look at the end result to see if those intentions are well placed."
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"I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."
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04-22-2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Santa_Claus
Having a theology degree doesn't make one saved.
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I never said it did, I was just showing you how people who study the bible can also be wrong. Just like you are wrong.
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04-23-2008, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Santa_Claus
No and I probably shouldn't. Skeptics always take scripture out of context.
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The god delusion is my favorite. It does not focus too much on the bible, in or out of context ,but rather logic that shows why belief in deities is a delusion with no rationale behind it. Maybe this will suit you better. Unless you are afraid that your mind could be changed 
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"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel."
-Ambrose Bierce
A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. - Vique
If there is a God...I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit..." -George Carlin
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